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Post by Arnold Slick on Jun 27, 2018 17:19:15 GMT -4
I agree it sucks not picking as there's a decent chance you could upgrade but jesus you can't do anything about it so either move on and keep watching good hockey... or don't.... 20 fans on a message boards whining all the time and deciding not to go anymore isn't going to affect anything with all of the many more fans this centre is going to attract Now a scenario which was mentioned previously which I keyed in on was that Shannon being fired may have affected some connections in Europe and they were not able to effectively Target and talk to a player to convince to come here in time. Ritchie and Co. were likely putting a lot of focus on the Q draft and other pieces. They may have targeted a few guys in EU there but they feel that they do not see the potential and upgrade over Lecoultre and Khovanov. That's the thing is you guys have no sweet clue what's available over there and who is willing to report to the wildcats, so I don't know why some people would be pretending to know we would get something better? History shows at that high of a pick, yes, but we still have no idea and with the little time this new regime has to prepare it's likely they were not confident going into this thing they could get and convince guy who could develop into a solid puck moving dman As mentioned before the WC are looking to be stronger this season and right now Lecoultre is their only puck moving Dman over Spence. Spence will be a hell of a player in this league at 18 and 19 but it will take an adjustment this season at 17. So really you only have one veteran puck-moving D in Le Coultre who will be getting more ice time and confidence, which helps in development. Either you take the risk and play with what you have and hope that Le Coultre reaches his potential or .... You could shop around the league for a Dman but it is likely the WC do not want to spend too many assets on acquiring a puck-moving Dman Play the cards you're dealt I'm sure Shannon getting fired had nothing to do with it. Ritchie was at the U17 and U18 tournaments I believe and scouted Euros, plus most of the work that teams do is with agents nowadays. Moncton has not had any issues getting players to come except for one Russian I believe. From what I heard Rumble pounded the table to keep Lecoultre and that's why they did it. I would rather lose 5 more games next year to grab a younger player and aim high for 19-20 after Halifax has their run as host. If they want a puck moving d-man they can likely find a free agent some where or an overager for a mid round pick who will be as good or better than SL. He should have been out the door with Shannon if he's going to be pounding the table to keep mediocre players in slots that should be reserved for impact players. I'd rather take a chance on another Euro than go with a known quantity who's not very good. I really liked Rumble the first few years he was here and thought he was one of the few good things the organization had going for it. Now he's looking more clueless by the day. |
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Post by Shannon's burner account on Jun 27, 2018 23:33:28 GMT -4
This move will look even worse if Rumble doesn't make it past this season
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 28, 2018 10:39:23 GMT -4
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CHL News - Import draft today at 11ET. Saint John will select winger Maxim Cajkovic of Slovakia first overall. Cajkovic will leave Malmo in Sweden to play with the Sea Dogs this season.
SJ is adding a potential 2019 NHL 1st rounder, Cats will keep their #5 d-man who will be a 3rd pair guy in the Swiss league in a year! No wonder SJ keeps winning titles and the cats are stuck in the mud!
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Post by bois on Jun 28, 2018 10:55:12 GMT -4
Do you think the Cats would pass on the 1st pick overall?
little extreme comparison there captain obsolete
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 28, 2018 11:03:48 GMT -4
Do you think the Cats would pass on the 1st pick overall? little extreme comparison there captain obsolete They are passing on 13th overall, that isn't far off. Most big market teams get stud players at that spot. Quebec got Kurashev at #21, Chicoutimi got Rubtsov at #27 in 2016. Halifax got Zadina a #11 in 2017. Gatineau got Abramov at #13 in 2015. ...but don't let facts get in the way of your baseless posts. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 12:55:22 GMT -4
In happier news Robert Irving bought a mansion next to bill gates!
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Post by waterboy on Jun 28, 2018 12:58:53 GMT -4
Mama says that the Wildcats still remained focused on achieving the goal of winning a Memorial cup to put on a shelf in a mansion next to bill gates.
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Post by Citris on Jun 28, 2018 23:23:16 GMT -4
Keep this in mind: It's sometimes more benificial to keep agents happy than it is to cut a player for an immediate upgrade.
Good connections lead to better players.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jun 29, 2018 8:17:14 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December.
Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee.
Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs.
6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers.
Aspirot - Spence
Le Coultre - Sylvestre
Stewart - ?
Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player.
Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove.
Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna
MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson
Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman
Stewart - Desnoyers - ?
A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline.
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Post by jimmy on Jun 29, 2018 8:41:21 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December. Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee. Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs. 6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers. Aspirot - Spence Le Coultre - Sylvestre Stewart - ? Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player. Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove. Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman Stewart - Desnoyers - ? A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline. As far as I know, they are still carrying Kuzmin, Blackmore and MacArthur on their protected list as 19 year old forwards ... none of them are locks, but have to figure they will at least get a look up front. Defense is ugly - have to figure one or two out of region FAs get signed ... or maybe a trade for a low end 20 year old if Pataki ends up being let go ... |
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Post by joehockey on Jun 29, 2018 8:58:20 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December. Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee. Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs. 6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers. Aspirot - Spence Le Coultre - Sylvestre Stewart - ? Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player. Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove. Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman Stewart - Desnoyers - ? A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline. I don't quite follow why Stewart is ahead of Tucker for the defence. He's a year younger but Tucker was with the Cats all last year. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 29, 2018 10:02:44 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December. Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee. Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs. 6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers. Aspirot - Spence Le Coultre - Sylvestre Stewart - ? Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player. Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove. Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman Stewart - Desnoyers - ? A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline. I agree with you on the goalies. On defense, I hope they find 3-4 FA(17 or 18) that have a realistic chance of cracking the roster. I see Sylvestre(20) Lecoultre(Euro) Aspirot Spence and Tucker as locks. Tucker is not great but he was solid last year, unless they add some really good FA's, I see him as a lock. For the 6th spot, I think Arsenault at 19, will battle with younger guys. I think Stewart is in the running with Vanier Nicholson plus Berube from this past draft. Dow is a November birthday so will only be 15 to start, I see him going back to MAAA/Jr.A. this is where not keeping/getting Bellamy and Jacques REALLY hurts. Really thin on defense in terms of guys under 19 after Spence. I expect a lot of FA's in camp and possibly after the OHL and WHL season starts. Up front there is a good mix of young and older players. will be interesting to see if they put some of the 19 year olds on the trade block at midseason... Khovanov(Euro) Cyr McKenna Pelletier MacDonald Seitz Campannelli Hudson are veteran locks. Probably Stewart also. Desnoyers is likely a lock plus Hillier also. Probably Stammer if he reports. I think Fournier goes back for another year MAAA. Tha's 10 or 11 guys which leaves about 2 spots for Blackmore Rumsey Foreman Pataki Kuzmin S.Fox Lazure plus free agents and other 2017 and 2018 draft picks. Edit: I forgot King and Dickner up front in the battle for spots. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 29, 2018 10:04:26 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December. Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee. Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs. 6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers. Aspirot - Spence Le Coultre - Sylvestre Stewart - ? Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player. Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove. Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman Stewart - Desnoyers - ? A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline. I don't quite follow why Stewart is ahead of Tucker for the defence. He's a year younger but Tucker was with the Cats all last year. Yeah, I have Tucker as a lock and S.Stewart having to win a spot in camp. not that Tucker is great, but they have no other 18 year olds and the 17 year olds are later picks. |
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Post by maggie3 on Jun 29, 2018 10:18:37 GMT -4
you never mentioned jaden mason the 17 year old who played in the mhl last season
possesses more skill than most of the guys you mentioned including jake steward
this kid is skilled and has a very quick and hard shot. sees the ice well tape to tape passer
and loves the rough stuff. he,s ready
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 29, 2018 11:20:00 GMT -4
you never mentioned jaden mason the 17 year old who played in the mhl last season possesses more skill than most of the guys you mentioned including jake steward this kid is skilled and has a very quick and hard shot. sees the ice well tape to tape passer and loves the rough stuff. he,s ready He had 17 points in 45 games in Jr.A. Unless he makes a giant leap forward over the summer I don't see him on the roster next year... |
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