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Post by SteveUL on Jun 29, 2018 11:26:40 GMT -4
I'd rather keep Pataki than spend assets on another 20 yr old. I'd like to see him slide into a leadership role and be that veteran banger that all teams need, and bang in 15 to 20 over the year if he stays healthy. You won't get the same result on the 3rd line from a rookie. But I'm assuming that guys like Blackmore, Casey Fox, Lazure and Kuzmin are probably not going to be here after camp breaks, making room for rookie forwards.
I think Brodie MacArthur is going to get some consideration ... he has been a high offense player at every level and showed it again last year in the MHL. I think time invested in him will be worth it ... but it probably should have happened last year. Being 19 he'll probably be given a shot until Xmas.
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 29, 2018 11:27:19 GMT -4
Pelletier- Khovanov- McKenna
MacDonald- Cyr- Overager
Seitz- Capannelli- Hudson
J. Stewart- Desnoyers- Blackmore
Hillier, Dickner
Aspirot- Sylvestre
Le Coultre- Spence
Vanier- Tucker
S. Stewart- Arsenault
Leclerc
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jun 29, 2018 11:35:22 GMT -4
I'd rather keep Pataki than spend assets on another 20 yr old. I'd like to see him slide into a leadership role and be that veteran banger that all teams need, and bang in 15 to 20 over the year if he stays healthy. You won't get the same result on the 3rd line from a rookie. But I'm assuming that guys like Blackmore, Casey Fox, Lazure and Kuzmin are probably not going to be here after camp breaks, making room for rookie forwards. I think Brodie MacArthur is going to get some consideration ... he has been a high offense player at every level and showed it again last year in the MHL. I think time invested in him will be worth it ... but it probably should have happened last year. Being 19 he'll probably be given a shot until Xmas. I would have no issue trading a 4th or 5th for a solid OA d-man and dumping Lecoultre for a younger Euro...but that ship has sailed. I think they can keep Pataki and see who is available in August/September/October for cheap or on OHL/WHL waivers. Casey Fox is no longer on the Cats list being an OA. Kuzmin I would definitely bring him back ta least in camp. Unfortunately I think Rumble has it in for him. I think he is a guy that can be a top 6 guy with a bit of progression, then a trade chip in December. MacArthur could be in the same boat, Arsenault also. If they are not replacing a young(16-17 yaer old) player that belongs in the Q, keep them and try and trade them at the deadline. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 29, 2018 11:36:04 GMT -4
Pelletier- Khovanov- McKenna MacDonald- Cyr- Overager Seitz- Capannelli- Hudson J. Stewart- Desnoyers- Blackmore Hillier, Dickner Aspirot- Sylvestre Le Coultre- Spence Vanier- Tucker S. Stewart- Arsenault Leclerc Lavallee No way they keep 19 yo Arsenault to be a 7/8 Dman. I'd move Capanelli or Hudson up to line two (both had good playoff) ... Overager = Pataki and slides into line 3 with Seitz and probably Hudson ... playing against other top lines. I don't see Blackmore making it if he is a 4th line 19 YO. He was given his shot last year and didn't do much. |
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Post by jimmy on Jun 29, 2018 12:03:17 GMT -4
Pelletier- Khovanov- McKenna MacDonald- Cyr- Overager Seitz- Capannelli- Hudson J. Stewart- Desnoyers- Blackmore Hillier, Dickner Aspirot- Sylvestre Le Coultre- Spence Vanier- Tucker S. Stewart- Arsenault Leclerc Lavallee No way they keep 19 yo Arsenault to be a 7/8 Dman. I'd move Capanelli or Hudson up to line two (both had good playoff) ... Overager = Pataki and slides into line 3 with Seitz and probably Hudson ... playing against other top lines. I don't see Blackmore making it if he is a 4th line 19 YO. He was given his shot last year and didn't do much. Pataki could slot in as a top 6 winger ... especially on a line with two smaller, skilled guys ... Every season, there seems to be an OA or two who were previously viewed as grinders who blossom as power forwards - probably because they become men who are just physically stronger than most other players, so they can create space. Can be tough to predict who they will be in advance - but Pataki would seem to fit the mould as potential guy in this category. Worth having a look to see what we have in camp. |
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Post by joehockey on Jun 29, 2018 12:06:45 GMT -4
Pelletier- Khovanov- McKenna MacDonald- Cyr- Overager Seitz- Capannelli- Hudson J. Stewart- Desnoyers- Blackmore Hillier, Dickner Aspirot- Sylvestre Le Coultre- Spence Vanier- Tucker S. Stewart- Arsenault Leclerc Lavallee I see King making it over Dickner. He has more size and is a year younger. I also think it would be better for Lavallee to go back to AAA where he'll play a lot than sit behind a 20 year old. I think what will be important is that Moncton makes a decision by Christmas on who they want to keep as overagers next year and shop the other ones. I'd tend to lean towards keeping McKenna, Cyr and Aspirot and shop Capannelli, Seitz. If you get a crazy offer for McKenna or Cyr though I think you trade them. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Jun 29, 2018 12:20:47 GMT -4
Pelletier- Khovanov- McKenna MacDonald- Cyr- Overager Seitz- Capannelli- Hudson J. Stewart- Desnoyers- Blackmore Hillier, Dickner Aspirot- Sylvestre Le Coultre- Spence Vanier- Tucker S. Stewart- Arsenault Leclerc Lavallee No way they keep 19 yo Arsenault to be a 7/8 Dman. I'd move Capanelli or Hudson up to line two (both had good playoff) ... Overager = Pataki and slides into line 3 with Seitz and probably Hudson ... playing against other top lines. I don't see Blackmore making it if he is a 4th line 19 YO. He was given his shot last year and didn't do much. They passed on the 13th pick to keep Le Coultre, they couldn’t make ice time for Bellamy and instead chose to play crappy defence in front of him. Just because the decision doesn't make sense, doesn’t mean the Cats won’t do it. I wasn’t predicting the roster that is roll with, I was simply predicting the roster I think the Wildcats management and coaches will roll out. |
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Post by maggie3 on Jun 29, 2018 12:44:44 GMT -4
go to training camp and see for yourself, he and steward played on same team together,
defence was really weak and the team didn,t make playoffs.scored over 60 points and came
second in scoring in nnmmhl behind blackmore in 2016-17. I,m telling you,he,s ready
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Post by maggie3 on Jun 29, 2018 12:50:26 GMT -4
go to training camp and see for yourself, he and steward played on same team together,
defence was really weak and the team didn,t make playoffs.scored over 60 points and came
second in scoring in nnmmhl behind blackmore in 2016-17. I,m telling you,he,s ready
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Post by lirette on Jun 29, 2018 12:55:17 GMT -4
go to training camp and see for yourself, he and steward played on same team together, defence was really weak and the team didn,t make playoffs.scored over 60 points and came second in scoring in nnmmhl behind blackmore in 2016-17. I,m telling you,he,s ready What he did in 16-17 isn't really relevant anymore since he came to camp in '17 and was mostly a non factor. If he put up 40+ pts last year I'd have a better feeling he could compete for a spot but the Cats have a ton of options at FW who are younger. He likely ends up as a solid player in the MHL. Nothing wrong with that. |
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Post by maggie3 on Jun 29, 2018 13:25:27 GMT -4
if it wasn,t relevant than stats should never need to be taken.lets wait and see
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Post by joehockey on Jun 29, 2018 13:38:24 GMT -4
I've been told Mark Grametbauer will be out until mid to late December. Francis Leclerc (20) will start the season as our #1. I'm looking forward to the competition for the backup job between Gaudreault, MacDonald, Paradis and Lavallee. Defensively, we have 4 confirmed. Sylvestre (20), Aspirot, Le Coultre and Spence. Several guys will battle for the 5-6 spot. Rumble usually 8 defensemen on the final roster. I'd give a slight edge to Sean Stewart for the 5th spot just because he was with the team during the playoffs. 6-7-8: Battle between Arsenault, Tucker, Chalifour, Nicholson, Vanier, Berube, Walker. I didn't include American Nolan Hayes just based on Hodge saying he likely won't make the team. I'm hesitant to include Arsenault and Tucker. I'd keep Tucker if it was between those two. There's always the chance other names are added within the next 50 days. Maybe pickup a free agent who has passed through either OHL or WHL waivers. Aspirot - Spence Le Coultre - Sylvestre Stewart - ? Capannelli, Cyr, McKenna, Seitz, Hudson, Khovanov, MacDonald, Pelletier and Jacob Stewart will be our confirmed returning forwards. I didn't include Pataki. I liked his play last season but I don't like keeping a 20 year old on the 3rd line. That spot should be given to a younger player. Two guys who I feel will make it: Kyle Foreman and Elliot Desnoyers. Foreman was the 2nd leading scorer amongst 16 year olds in the MHL last year (Spence was first). His experience playing against older players shouldn't be ignored. Desnoyers just finished his 2nd year of Midget AAA so there's nothing left to prove. Pelletier - Cyr - McKenna MacDonald - Khovanov - Hudson Seitz - Capannelli - Foreman Stewart - Desnoyers - ? A few candidates for right spot on the 4th line: Ozzie King, Sam Dickner, Stephen Fox, Mark Hillier. As Hillier had NCAA options and he's 100% coming to camp, I feel he could have an edge on the others but they can be rotated. Rumble is known to carry 14 or 15 forwards so all 4 of those guys could make it team. I'm not sure what free agents like Keagan Stewart or Cameron Scrivens will bring will bring but they seem to be bangers based on their size. Griffin McGregor has some impressive numbers in Junior A and he's known for getting into the heads of opposing players. He could be a good replacement for Seitz if he's moved at the deadline. I agree with you on the goalies. On defense, I hope they find 3-4 FA(17 or 18) that have a realistic chance of cracking the roster. I see Sylvestre(20) Lecoultre(Euro) Aspirot Spence and Tucker as locks. Tucker is not great but he was solid last year, unless they add some really good FA's, I see him as a lock. For the 6th spot, I think Arsenault at 19, will battle with younger guys. I think Stewart is in the running with Vanier Nicholson plus Berube from this past draft. Dow is a November birthday so will only be 15 to start, I see him going back to MAAA/Jr.A. this is where not keeping/getting Bellamy and Jacques REALLY hurts. Really thin on defense in terms of guys under 19 after Spence. I expect a lot of FA's in camp and possibly after the OHL and WHL season starts. Up front there is a good mix of young and older players. will be interesting to see if they put some of the 19 year olds on the trade block at midseason... Khovanov(Euro) Cyr McKenna Pelletier MacDonald Seitz Campannelli Hudson are veteran locks. Probably Stewart also. Desnoyers is likely a lock plus Hillier also. Probably Stammer if he reports. I think Fournier goes back for another year MAAA. Tha's 10 or 11 guys which leaves about 2 spots for Blackmore Rumsey Foreman Pataki Kuzmin S.Fox Lazure plus free agents and other 2017 and 2018 draft picks. Edit: I forgot King and Dickner up front in the battle for spots. Are there questions about Stammer reporting? I thought he fell because he is tiny. I think there is a picture of him getting his jersey and he looks very small next to the Wildcat staffers he's standing beside. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 29, 2018 13:38:54 GMT -4
go to training camp and see for yourself, he and steward played on same team together, defence was really weak and the team didn,t make playoffs.scored over 60 points and came second in scoring in nnmmhl behind blackmore in 2016-17. I,m telling you,he,s ready Not trying to be rude or dismissive ... but are you his Mother/Sister/Aunt/Girlfriend ? I think your view of him is probably a little biased since you seem to be so close to him. Using Blackmore as a benchmark is not great evidence ... he has not panned out. I'm not trying to discourage you because every kid that comes to camp has the chance to show his stuff and every year there are a few surprises ... its up to him to prove he belongs ... or doesn't belong. But at this point he is not in the conversation to have a spot for the 2018-19 season. |
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Post by SteveUL on Jun 29, 2018 13:44:47 GMT -4
if it wasn,t relevant than stats should never need to be taken.lets wait and see The stats show that he probably needs another year of MHL before he is ready for the next level. His 17 points in 45 games says he hasn't mastered the Jr A level yet. Maybe he will and could be a Wildcat of the future, opr traded to a team that needs somebody like him now, but there is a long way to go before that happens. |
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Post by maggie3 on Jun 29, 2018 14:05:19 GMT -4
no relation,been around the game for 56 years as a player and coach now reiired.when I seen him play
was very impressed
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