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Post by jimmy on Apr 24, 2018 10:11:54 GMT -4
4 lines and 7 d one of the forwards gets double shifted you should be able to figure that out Then it's not 4 lines. In hockey lingo, "playing 4 lines" means having 12 forwards dressed and all of them playing a regular shift. Not having 11 and spotting the last two in. It can also just mean everyone plays and no one rides the pine ... quit nit-picking  |
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Post by bois on Apr 24, 2018 10:12:05 GMT -4
you can have a star player play on two lines and roll all 4 lines
has been done many times especially in junior
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 24, 2018 10:17:10 GMT -4
you can have a star player play on two lines and roll all 4 lines has been done many times especially in junior Then you're not "rolling 4 lines". |
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Post by archie on Apr 24, 2018 10:36:35 GMT -4
Flynn has made 6 trips to the Memorial Cup , He has never won one as head coach/gm. He is a good coach /gm but never won it all ! I Guess I was spoiled watching Brian Kilrea’s teams ! I guess when you have been coach/ GM 6 times to the memorial Cup. for the most part that would translate into very successful coach & or Gm and numerous League championships! Very hard to match those stats in the Q... |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Apr 24, 2018 10:42:31 GMT -4
you can have a star player play on two lines and roll all 4 lines has been done many times especially in junior Then you're not "rolling 4 lines". Rolling 4 lines doesn't have to mean rolling the same 12 bodies. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 24, 2018 10:47:57 GMT -4
Then you're not "rolling 4 lines". Rolling 4 lines doesn't have to mean rolling the same 12 bodies. Yes it does. I have never head any hockey people use that term with a team not having 4 full lines. |
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Post by bois on Apr 24, 2018 10:50:24 GMT -4
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Post by Penguins23® on Apr 24, 2018 11:41:38 GMT -4
You can definitely roll 4 lines with only 11 forwards.
The Pens used to do it with Malkin and Crosby splitting 4C duties. Gives them a bit more icetime and allows you to dress 7 D.
"What does “rolling four lines” mean? It means the coach has confidence in all four of his forward lines so each line gets a substantial share of ice time."
No where does it say that your 4th line centre(or other position) can't be on any other line.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 24, 2018 11:48:22 GMT -4
You can definitely roll 4 lines with only 11 forwards. The Pens used to do it with Malkin and Crosby splitting 4C duties. Gives them a bit more icetime and allows you to dress 7 D. "What does “rolling four lines” mean? It means the coach has confidence in all four of his forward lines so each line gets a substantial share of ice time." No where does it say that your 4th line centre(or other position) can't be on any other line. I have never in my 40+ years of watching and listening to hockey, head a coach or broadcaster say a team was "rolling 4 lines" without them actually having a true 4th line, not playing 11 forwards. I have actually heard the opposite, saying they "can't roll 4 lines" because of injuries or whatever when only 11 are dressed. |
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Apr 24, 2018 13:04:16 GMT -4
I didn’t say Flynn or Cameron was a bad coach/gm just saying that they didn’t,t win the big prize. In the qmjhl being able to trade that 1 st round pic allows for some teams to really load up and suck in a few years. kilrea didn,t have that option in the OHL and would always have a .500 club and certain years they would go for it , they were always reloading instead of rebuilding. Flynn loaded up in Moncton and now we are seeing the fallout ! Connor Garland wouldn't have won the scoring race playing for Flynn !
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Apr 24, 2018 13:08:45 GMT -4
I like seeing a consistently good team but and agree with captain obvious that your core should be built through the draft. however I have yet to see that Moncton can draft well and seem to always overpay on trades. Stop trading away your first rounders !
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Post by interested on Apr 24, 2018 13:51:30 GMT -4
Calling out the elephant in the room: everyone in hockey knows that if you are GM or coach for Rob Irving, you will be paid very well, and money will be no object in recruitment and player amenities, but also, you follow orders. You can pitch ideas to Mr. Irving, but when he decides you need to move Player X, you move him, and if he decides Player Y in on the PP, he's on the PP. Meanwhile, he's hanging over the glass yelling at coach and players during games. As GM/coach, you do what Mr. Irving says, period. And when it doesn't work, you're the dumbass who could't manage/coach.
I mention this because it affects who will take these jobs. Sometimes a guy just needs a gig, or a well-paying job, so he will suck it up. Others likely imagine they will be the one to convince Mr. Irving to stick to the toilet paper business. Some think they'll come in, take advantage of the opportunity to win created by that money, and then move on/up.
I've no doubt RKI is determined to get someone NHL calibre: I do doubt he'll succeed in landing one. Time will tell...
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Post by catnut on Apr 24, 2018 13:55:41 GMT -4
Calling out the elephant in the room: everyone in hockey knows that if you are GM or coach for Rob Irving, you will be paid very well, and money will be no object in recruitment and player amenities, but also, you follow orders. You can pitch ideas to Mr. Irving, but when he decides you need to move Player X, you move him, and if he decides Player Y in on the PP, he's on the PP. Meanwhile, he's hanging over the glass yelling at coach and players during games. As GM/coach, you do what Mr. Irving says, period. And when it doesn't work, you're the dumbass who could't manage/coach. I mention this because it affects who will take these jobs. Sometimes a guy just needs a gig, or a well-paying job, so he will suck it up. Others likely imagine they will be the one to convince Mr. Irving to stick to the toilet paper business. Some think they'll come in, take advantage of the opportunity to win created by that money, and then move on/up. I've no doubt RKI is determined to get someone NHL calibre: I do doubt he'll succeed in landing one. Time will tell... My season tickets were within 10 feet of RKI for over 15 years and he never yelled at his players and coaches, with the exception of a "Go Cats Go" or something like that. The refs, well that's another completely different story. |
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Post by interested on Apr 24, 2018 14:00:03 GMT -4
Calling out the elephant in the room: everyone in hockey knows that if you are GM or coach for Rob Irving, you will be paid very well, and money will be no object in recruitment and player amenities, but also, you follow orders. You can pitch ideas to Mr. Irving, but when he decides you need to move Player X, you move him, and if he decides Player Y in on the PP, he's on the PP. Meanwhile, he's hanging over the glass yelling at coach and players during games. As GM/coach, you do what Mr. Irving says, period. And when it doesn't work, you're the dumbass who could't manage/coach. I mention this because it affects who will take these jobs. Sometimes a guy just needs a gig, or a well-paying job, so he will suck it up. Others likely imagine they will be the one to convince Mr. Irving to stick to the toilet paper business. Some think they'll come in, take advantage of the opportunity to win created by that money, and then move on/up. I've no doubt RKI is determined to get someone NHL calibre: I do doubt he'll succeed in landing one. Time will tell... My season tickets were within 10 feet of RKI for over 15 years and he never yelled at his players and coaches, with the exception of a "Go Cats Go" or something like that. The refs, well that's another completely different story. You're right. He doesn't yell at players and coaches during games. He definitely leans over the glass and coaches them, but he doesn't yell. |
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Post by catnut on Apr 24, 2018 14:03:10 GMT -4
My season tickets were within 10 feet of RKI for over 15 years and he never yelled at his players and coaches, with the exception of a "Go Cats Go" or something like that. The refs, well that's another completely different story. You're right. He doesn't yell at players and coaches during games. He definitely leans over the glass and coaches them, but he doesn't yell. Nope doesn't coach them. But you must have a better view all the way from Saint John. |
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