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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 2, 2019 15:35:30 GMT -4
Interesting article from the Telegraph Journal. They seem to have got their hands on an internal document which outlines Saint John's roster for their 2022 Memorial Cup bid.
Projected forwards:
Josh Lawrence (19)
Brady Burns (19)
Dawson Stairs (19)
Alex Drover (19)
Joshua Roy (18)
Charles Savoie (18)
Notable forwards not confirmed: Jack Williams (Northeastern University), Peter Reynolds (Boston College) and Cam MacDonald (Sioux Falls Stampede).
Projected defenseman:
William Villeneuve (19)
Charlie Desroches (19)
Jeremie Poirier (19)
Joona Lehmus (19)
Notable defencemen not confirmed: Anthony Cliche (Bishop's College) and Nicolas Kakouras (played five games with Sea Dogs in 2018-19).
Projected goalie:
Mathias Savoie (19)
Notable goalies not confirmed: Connor Bradford (Boston Advantage) and Noah Patenaude (Swiss national team).
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Post by ysj28 on Aug 2, 2019 16:50:04 GMT -4
I don’t think an internal document was needed to project the roster
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Post by Score on Aug 2, 2019 17:16:13 GMT -4
SJ are so far ahead of Bathurst in the rebuild its not funny.
Watch out for Stairs. I think he'll be one hell of a player.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Aug 2, 2019 19:54:45 GMT -4
Interesting article from the Telegraph Journal. They seem to have got their hands on an internal document which outlines Saint John's roster for their 2022 Memorial Cup bid. Projected forwards: Josh Lawrence (19) Brady Burns (19) Dawson Stairs (19) Alex Drover (19) Joshua Roy (18) Charles Savoie (18) Notable forwards not confirmed: Jack Williams (Northeastern University), Peter Reynolds (Boston College) and Cam MacDonald (Sioux Falls Stampede). Projected defenseman:William Villeneuve (19) Charlie Desroches (19) Jeremie Poirier (19) Joona Lehmus (19) Notable defencemen not confirmed: Anthony Cliche (Bishop's College) and Nicolas Kakouras (played five games with Sea Dogs in 2018-19). Projected goalie: Mathias Savoie (19) Notable goalies not confirmed: Connor Bradford (Boston Advantage) and Noah Patenaude (Swiss national team). It would be nice if we could get a few of those notable guys mentioned to report. It would surely reduce the number of trades we would need to make to turn us in to contenders for the President and Memorial cups and not leave us with our cupboards bare for the next rebuild.
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Post by ysj28 on Aug 2, 2019 21:54:39 GMT -4
Hearing that Noah Patenaude has received league approval to attend Sea Dogs training camp. We may have a very good goalie battle over the course of the next month and a half
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Post by direwolf on Aug 2, 2019 22:36:40 GMT -4
Really good interview with Cam McDonald by John Moore. Definitely going to play for Sioux Falls this season. Said it gives him another year to decide between going to the Q or NCAA. I Definitely think its a possibility he reports next season.
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Post by ldub23 on Aug 3, 2019 11:16:24 GMT -4
I apologize if this was brought up earlier and I missed it...
I was looking at the Sea Dogs' pre-season roster and noticed that Luke Wilson was not listed. However, I found him on the Sherbrooke roster with a note; "Player on loan for Camp 2019 from Saint John to Sherbrooke on July 16, 2019".
I liked what Luke brought as a rookie but he did struggle last season. I hope a change of scenery helps him get back on track.
I'd have to assume there would be some compensation if he does crack the Pheonix lineup. Can anyone confirm the arrangement?
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Post by kovalchuksghost on Aug 3, 2019 11:26:49 GMT -4
The Sea Dogs are playing three dimensional chess while other teams are tripping over their feet playing hop scotch.
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Post by j3e4 on Aug 3, 2019 15:09:49 GMT -4
The Sea Dogs are playing three dimensional chess while other teams are tripping over their feet playing hop scotch. Not sure if I agree. If by "other teams", you mean "some other teams", I could agree. If you mean "all other teams" I definitely disagree.
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Post by kovalchuksghost on Aug 4, 2019 16:43:08 GMT -4
The Sea Dogs are playing three dimensional chess while other teams are tripping over their feet playing hop scotch. Not sure if I agree. If by "other teams", you mean "some other teams", I could agree. If you mean "all other teams" I definitely disagree. Like who?
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Post by joehockey on Aug 4, 2019 16:51:03 GMT -4
Not sure if I agree. If by "other teams", you mean "some other teams", I could agree. If you mean "all other teams" I definitely disagree. Like who? Are you talking about them loaning players to other teams for training camp? If so, you should pay more attention to the league. This happens multiple times every year.
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Post by kovalchuksghost on Aug 4, 2019 17:24:34 GMT -4
Are you talking about them loaning players to other teams for training camp? If so, you should pay more attention to the league. This happens multiple times every year. Haha I am not talking about “loaning” players
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Post by j3e4 on Aug 4, 2019 21:34:02 GMT -4
Not sure if I agree. If by "other teams", you mean "some other teams", I could agree. If you mean "all other teams" I definitely disagree. Like who? I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking. Sorry, but your question is poorly worded as a response to my post. Given the context, my best guess is that you're asking for examples of other teams playing the same "game" as the Sea Dogs. Whatever the case, are examples really needed to validate my comment when the Sea Dogs missed the playoffs the past 2 years? Yes, I get that having down years is both the price of past success and a means to future success in this league. But depending on how seriously one takes your extreme analogy, at best you'd expect the Sea Dogs to win the league every year, and at worst you'd expect their down years to be about mid-pack. Not only that but the cycles (especially the time at the bottom) would be shorter. Speaking of which, the reigning Memorial Cup champions won the Q in 2016, finished 2nd (3rd most points) in 2017, finished 7th in 2018 and then won the Memorial Cup in 2019. I'd say the team they beat to win the Memorial Cup are also playing a similar game to the Sea Dogs.
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Post by kovalchuksghost on Aug 4, 2019 22:17:44 GMT -4
I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking. Sorry, but your question is poorly worded as a response to my post. Given the context, my best guess is that you're asking for examples of other teams playing the same "game" as the Sea Dogs. Whatever the case, are examples really needed to validate my comment when the Sea Dogs missed the playoffs the past 2 years? Yes, I get that having down years is both the price of past success and a means to future success in this league. But depending on how seriously one takes your extreme analogy, at you'd expect the Sea Dogs to win the league every year, and at worst you'd expect their down years to be about mid-pack. Not only that but the cycles (especially the time at the bottom) would be shorter. Speaking of which, the reigning Memorial Cup champions won the Q in 2016, finished 2nd (3rd most points) in 2017, finished 7th in 2018 and then won the Memorial Cup in 2019. I'd say the team they beat to win the Memorial Cup are also playing a similar game to the Sea Dogs. I did not think it was that poorly worded. Just a simple ask of what other hockey clubs you think are among the best at the junior hockey cycle. Despite being “not entirely sure” and having your “best guess” you somehow managed to to eventually get to where I wanted to go, but hey, I understand the need to come across intelligent on a message board. Especially given the whole chess theme that ties into my original post. So if trying to paint me as inept really makes you feel good about yourself when you log off. Then give yourself a pat on the back. If your interpretation was to be able to be a perennial contender as an example of playing chess then it most certainly is. For myself it would be the Sea Dog’s ability to manage the assets they have, recognizing their competitive window, having a draft where they acquire some of the best 16 year old D-Men in this league and are able to add Joshua Roy to the mix. They recognized their surplus on D and traded Larose for Alex Drover who will be an excellent 17 year old this season. Its a system that rewards the worst performing teams so having middle of the pack down years doesn’t really demonstrate to me some sort of worldly ability to stay ahead of the curve. Such an “extreme” analogy I know. As poor as my question that didnt need to be validated, but gosh darn it you took your “best guess” and gave it anyway :’), just couldn’t resist, right?
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Post by j3e4 on Aug 4, 2019 22:52:27 GMT -4
I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking. Sorry, but your question is poorly worded as a response to my post. Given the context, my best guess is that you're asking for examples of other teams playing the same "game" as the Sea Dogs. Whatever the case, are examples really needed to validate my comment when the Sea Dogs missed the playoffs the past 2 years? Yes, I get that having down years is both the price of past success and a means to future success in this league. But depending on how seriously one takes your extreme analogy, at you'd expect the Sea Dogs to win the league every year, and at worst you'd expect their down years to be about mid-pack. Not only that but the cycles (especially the time at the bottom) would be shorter. Speaking of which, the reigning Memorial Cup champions won the Q in 2016, finished 2nd (3rd most points) in 2017, finished 7th in 2018 and then won the Memorial Cup in 2019. I'd say the team they beat to win the Memorial Cup are also playing a similar game to the Sea Dogs. I did not think it was that poorly worded. Just a simple ask of what other hockey clubs you think are among the best at the junior hockey cycle. Despite being “not entirely sure” and having your “best guess” you somehow managed to to eventually get to where I wanted to go, but hey, I understand the need to come across intelligent on a message board. Especially given the whole chess theme that ties into my original post. So if trying to paint me as inept really makes you feel good about yourself when you log off. Then give yourself a pat on the back. If your interpretation was to be able to be a perennial contender as an example of playing chess then it most certainly is. For myself it would be the Sea Dog’s ability to manage the assets they have, recognizing their competitive window, having a draft where they acquire some of the best 16 year old D-Men in this league and are able to add Joshua Roy to the mix. They recognized their surplus on D and traded Larose for Alex Drover who will be an excellent 17 year old this season. Its a system that rewards the worst performing teams so having middle of the pack down years doesn’t really demonstrate to me some sort of worldly ability to stay ahead of the curve. Such an “extreme” analogy I know. As poor as my question that didnt need to be validated, but gosh darn it you took your “best guess” and gave it anyway :’), just couldn’t resist, right? I was actually trying to be polite and did not intend to sound like I was attacking you or trying to make myself sound intelligent. I'm not a grammar Nazi. It's not like I called you out for ending a sentence with a preposition, something I often do because I really don't care. These boards are full of grammatical errors and my posts are no exception but most of the time the poor grammar or poor wording does not cause the intended message to be lost. I was simply looking for clarification as to what you were asking and explaining my response in case I was wrong with my assumption. As I suggested, I was able to come up with a decent guess but only due to the context, because the wording was indeed poor in response to my comment. Had I said "There are other teams playing chess too.", it would have been perfectly fine. Anyway, it's nothing to be ashamed of or embarrassed about. You likely read my message and just wrote a quick response without putting much thought into it and that's fine. It happens to all of us from time to time, so as far as I'm concerned there is no need to get defensive. In the interest of not wanting to sound condescending or like I'm trying to sound intelligent and since we've already gone further down this rabbit hole than any of us care for, I'll just leave it at that and won't explain why the wording was poor. Now that that's out of the way, do you disagree with the 2 examples I gave of RN and Halifax? If so, why?
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