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Post by ysj28 on Aug 6, 2019 18:25:39 GMT -4
The Swiss D and FW were just horrendous. Looks like they gave a little too much in their first game against the Czechs and had no steam left. Might be a slaughter fest against the Fins tomorrow with a 3 in 3.
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Aug 7, 2019 10:33:22 GMT -4
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Post by iraca on Aug 7, 2019 10:50:32 GMT -4
At least he'll be used to getting a lot of rubber fired at him.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Aug 7, 2019 11:09:08 GMT -4
Good Article in the TJ about the process of getting Patenaude eligible to sign with the team. Stella first liked what he saw in early 2018 when he was in Europe scouting other players. Noah P.doc (437.5 KB) |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Sept 9, 2019 13:35:12 GMT -4
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Post by ldub23 on Sept 9, 2019 16:49:05 GMT -4
There was a glimmer of hope that Cam MacDonald might report to Saint John next season. But with this Twitter message, it's safe to say the chances are pretty much zero.
However, Sea Dogs fans are still holding onto hope that Peter Reynolds and Robert Orr both sign next season.
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Post by Slap Shooter on Sept 19, 2019 12:28:04 GMT -4
I see that a lot of the so called experts are picking the Dogs to finish last in the east again this year. Don’t know who they can jump in this group other than AB but they better hope they can be better than a last place for the 3rd year in a row or I can imagine head will roll. TD Station will be empty if we are bottom feeders again.
Personally I don’t think we will be a bad team but I look at those teams and it will be tough to jump ahead of most of them.
CHI
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RIM
C-B
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QUE
AB
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 19, 2019 12:34:36 GMT -4
Don’t know who they can jump in this group other than AB but they better hope they can be better than a last place for the 3rd year in a row or I can imagine head will roll. TD Station will be empty if we are bottom feeders again. What did you think the price for 2017 was going to be but many years at the bottom collecting young players? The veteran core of this team would come from your 2016 and 2017 drafts. Since you traded away most of those top assets and ran with a team with almost no returning players for the following year you all should have expected this. And have a championship banner as the reward. You can't have it both ways. With the success your franchise has had there's no reason the rink should be empty. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 19, 2019 12:56:22 GMT -4
I see that a lot of the so called experts are picking the Dogs to finish last in the east again this year. Don’t know who they can jump in this group other than AB but they better hope they can be better than a last place for the 3rd year in a row or I can imagine head will roll. TD Station will be empty if we are bottom feeders again. Personally I don’t think we will be a bad team but I look at those teams and it will be tough to jump ahead of most of them. CHI MON RIM C-B HFX CHA BC QUE AB STJN Other than finishing ahead of Bathurst possibly, its tricky. I think Baie Comeau could be caught (good for us too since we have their 1st round pick). I was hoping they would have traded away a Fortier, Bouchard, and/or Legare before the season started though. It will depend on how B.C. does in the first half, and how much they "sell" at Xmas. Quebec is icing a pretty young team as well. They could struggle and SJ could possibly get ahead of them. Other than those three teams though, that's about it from our conference. The other 6 teams are likely uncatchable, barring one of them having a horrible first half that caused a complete sell-off. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Sept 19, 2019 12:59:49 GMT -4
Don’t know who they can jump in this group other than AB but they better hope they can be better than a last place for the 3rd year in a row or I can imagine head will roll. TD Station will be empty if we are bottom feeders again. What did you think the price for 2017 was going to be but many years at the bottom collecting young players? The veteran core of this team would come from your 2016 and 2017 drafts. Since you traded away most of those top assets and ran with a team with almost no returning players for the following year you all should have expected this. And have a championship banner as the reward. You can't have it both ways. With the success your franchise has had there's no reason the rink should be empty. I wouldn't change the way they went after the championship in 2017 and I feel that they are going about it the right way to win another championship. I do believe we could have improved this team for this year with one or two moves either by trade or free agency. We have lots of good young skill and the future looks bright. We have the assets to make sure we do not finish last this year if they wanted to and that is without moving any of the young core in place. I realize that the price for going all in is a couple of bad years but not three. I would be happy with a 10th thru 14th overall finish. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Sept 19, 2019 13:24:54 GMT -4
What did you think the price for 2017 was going to be but many years at the bottom collecting young players? The veteran core of this team would come from your 2016 and 2017 drafts. Since you traded away most of those top assets and ran with a team with almost no returning players for the following year you all should have expected this. And have a championship banner as the reward. You can't have it both ways. With the success your franchise has had there's no reason the rink should be empty. I wouldn't change the way they went after the championship in 2017 and I feel that they are going about it the right way to win another championship. I do believe we could have improved this team for this year with one or two moves either by trade or free agency. We have lots of good young skill and the future looks bright. We have the assets to make sure we do not finish last this year if they wanted to and that is without moving any of the young core in place. I realize that the price for going all in is a couple of bad years but not three. I would be happy with a 10th thru 14th overall finish. It's 3 when you trade as deeply as you did. Few teams have ever iced a roster that old...for the reason that few teams want these prolonged rebuild. But as long as your team keeps winning...long rebuilds done to put you at the top of the draft is how you'll keep going. Hard to argue when you see the championship banners hanging in your arena. Some of us don't have the success in 3 full rebuild cycles as you always seem to experience in one. |
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Post by pinkbeaver on Sept 19, 2019 14:25:00 GMT -4
What did you think the price for 2017 was going to be but many years at the bottom collecting young players? The veteran core of this team would come from your 2016 and 2017 drafts. Since you traded away most of those top assets and ran with a team with almost no returning players for the following year you all should have expected this. And have a championship banner as the reward. You can't have it both ways. With the success your franchise has had there's no reason the rink should be empty. I wouldn't change the way they went after the championship in 2017 and I feel that they are going about it the right way to win another championship. I do believe we could have improved this team for this year with one or two moves either by trade or free agency. We have lots of good young skill and the future looks bright. We have the assets to make sure we do not finish last this year if they wanted to and that is without moving any of the young core in place. I realize that the price for going all in is a couple of bad years but not three. I would be happy with a 10th thru 14th overall finish. In the 2017 season, SJ made 3 major trades. I thought 2 were necessary, Simon bourque to sure up the top 4 D. Booth to add a stud veteran goalie they did not have. However, I thought trading for Julien Gauthier was a bit over kill. Its hard to argue because they won the league, but they already had a stacked top 6 and some offensively gifted D. I think they could have benefited more from spending less on a third line grinder type player. that was my thought at the time. Like I said they got the results so its hard to argue. |
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Post by Judas In My Mind on Sept 19, 2019 14:49:26 GMT -4
I wouldn't change the way they went after the championship in 2017 and I feel that they are going about it the right way to win another championship. I do believe we could have improved this team for this year with one or two moves either by trade or free agency. We have lots of good young skill and the future looks bright. We have the assets to make sure we do not finish last this year if they wanted to and that is without moving any of the young core in place. I realize that the price for going all in is a couple of bad years but not three. I would be happy with a 10th thru 14th overall finish. In the 2017 season, SJ made 3 major trades. I thought 2 were necessary, Simon bourque to sure up the top 4 D. Booth to add a stud veteran goalie they did not have. However, I thought trading for Julien Gauthier was a bit over kill. Its hard to argue because they won the league, but they already had a stacked top 6 and some offensively gifted D. I think they could have benefited more from spending less on a third line grinder type player. that was my thought at the time. Like I said they got the results so its hard to argue. I agree. In fact I would have rather seen them get another bottom pairing type of defenseman. Would have been far cheaper than Gauthier was plus would have given us defensive depth we needed. For a contender we lacked someone I would consider a #4 Dman. After Chabot, Bourque and Zboril we had.... Bailey Webster, Alexandre Bernier, Chase Stewart, David Comeau and Oliver Felixson (and we lost him for the playoffs). No offense to any of those names but they weren't good enough to be a second pairing player on a team trying to win a Memorial Cup. I'd argue a couple of those names weren't good enough to crack the top six D on a typical Memorial Cup team. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Sept 19, 2019 17:23:07 GMT -4
In the 2017 season, SJ made 3 major trades. I thought 2 were necessary, Simon bourque to sure up the top 4 D. Booth to add a stud veteran goalie they did not have. However, I thought trading for Julien Gauthier was a bit over kill. Its hard to argue because they won the league, but they already had a stacked top 6 and some offensively gifted D. I think they could have benefited more from spending less on a third line grinder type player. that was my thought at the time. Like I said they got the results so its hard to argue. I agree. In fact I would have rather seen them get another bottom pairing type of defenseman. Would have been far cheaper than Gauthier was plus would have given us defensive depth we needed. For a contender we lacked someone I would consider a #4 Dman. After Chabot, Bourque and Zboril we had.... Bailey Webster, Alexandre Bernier, Chase Stewart, David Comeau and Oliver Felixson (and we lost him for the playoffs). No offense to any of those names but they weren't good enough to be a second pairing player on a team trying to win a Memorial Cup. I'd argue a couple of those names weren't good enough to crack the top six D on a typical Memorial Cup team. I agree that we probably didn't need to make the Gauthier deal but what it did do was keep him away from Charlottetown and Blanville, Does Gauthier make either team better than the Dogs? Who knows! |
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Post by j3e4 on Sept 19, 2019 19:00:44 GMT -4
I seem to recall the Sea Dogs often badly outshooting their opponents in the first half of the 2016-2017 season but having trouble scoring. I believe that is why Gauthier was targeted.
The last 2 seasons as well as this upcoming one also suffer(ed) from 3 straight years of terrible drafts. 2015 was only salvaged by the 3 first round picks. The year before and after it were awful.
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