|
|
Post by j3e4 on Dec 15, 2019 21:52:40 GMT -4
Wonder why they used the rd.1 2020 (SNB) and not the rd.1 2020 (DRU). Do they think DRU is gonna drop in the standings and SNB is gonna pass them? Well DRU is selling. Exactly. And even if they weren't, it takes 2 teams to agree to a trade. If the common belief was that the SJ pick is worth more, then the reason it would be included in the trade is because that's the pick Rimouski wanted in order to get the deal done. |
|
|
|
Post by j3e4 on Dec 15, 2019 22:46:38 GMT -4
So is there any qestion as to who the next captain will be? Seems like a no-brainer to me. Durocher has experience as a captain but I can't see them bringing him in half-way through the season and naming him captain over Deakin-Poot (assuming he's not traded). Durocher will probably get an "A" instead.
|
|
|
|
Post by juliansteed on Dec 16, 2019 1:06:24 GMT -4
I'm in no rush to get rid of either but I think the choice would be obvious if it came down to it. My guess is we end up passing on the pick. Could always trade one at the draft too. If the rumour of us getting a solid 19 year old d-man at the draft are true, then I suspect we will use the import pick and draft a forward unless we trade one of our defensemen, which I doubt happens. As young and inexperienced as our D are now, it appears as though we will be pretty stacked next season with this addition and everyone being a year older. I even heard a rumour last night that we might be adding an 18 year old depth d-man at little to no cost for the rest of this season. Nothing against Lehmus but I think they might prefer to use that pick on a forward seeing as how we will 100% be losing our two 20 year old forwards. |
|
|
|
Post by yoyomamajoe on Dec 16, 2019 8:49:49 GMT -4
I'm in no rush to get rid of either but I think the choice would be obvious if it came down to it. My guess is we end up passing on the pick. Could always trade one at the draft too. If the rumour of us getting a solid 19 year old d-man at the draft are true, then I suspect we will use the import pick and draft a forward unless we trade one of our defensemen, which I doubt happens. As young and inexperienced as our D are now, it appears as though we will be pretty stacked next season with this addition and everyone being a year older. I even heard a rumour last night that we might be adding an 18 year old depth d-man at little to no cost for the rest of this season. Nothing against Lehmus but I think they might prefer to use that pick on a forward seeing as how we will 100% be losing our two 20 year old forwards. Don't think we need a 18yr old depth D. We have that in Desroches and Musico. Right now we need to give our 17yr old as much ice time as possible. |
|
|
|
Post by juliansteed on Dec 16, 2019 9:01:58 GMT -4
If the rumour of us getting a solid 19 year old d-man at the draft are true, then I suspect we will use the import pick and draft a forward unless we trade one of our defensemen, which I doubt happens. As young and inexperienced as our D are now, it appears as though we will be pretty stacked next season with this addition and everyone being a year older. I even heard a rumour last night that we might be adding an 18 year old depth d-man at little to no cost for the rest of this season. Nothing against Lehmus but I think they might prefer to use that pick on a forward seeing as how we will 100% be losing our two 20 year old forwards. Don't think we need a 18yr old depth D. We have that in Desroches and Musico. Right now we need to give our 17yr old as much ice time as possible. Agreed. From the sounds of it, they aren't targetting an 18 year old depth D but one in particular may have fallen into our lap, that should be able to help us out this season, so a step up from the others mentioned but not necessarily any better than the guys a year younger than him. If his specialty is defensee, then it could be a good addition, if it even happens. If it does happen, I'd expect Olivier Desroches to be traded. |
|
|
|
Post by bois on Dec 16, 2019 9:58:05 GMT -4
So is there any qestion as to who the next captain will be? Seems like a no-brainer to me. Durocher has experience as a captain but I can't see them bringing him in half-way through the season and naming him captain over Deakin-Poot (assuming he's not traded). Durocher will probably get an "A" instead. sure because you didn't name Guay captain to start the year after bringing him into a brand new room.... no precedent set there |
|
|
|
Post by j3e4 on Dec 16, 2019 10:09:21 GMT -4
So is there any qestion as to who the next captain will be? Seems like a no-brainer to me. Durocher has experience as a captain but I can't see them bringing him in half-way through the season and naming him captain over Deakin-Poot (assuming he's not traded). Durocher will probably get an "A" instead. sure because you didn't name Guay captain to start the year after bringing him into a brand new room.... no precedent set there I guess you missed the part where I said "half-way through the season". Big difference between naming a newcomer that attended training camp and played in pre-season games as captain vs. a guy you acquire half-way through the year. No precedent of that happening ever with the Sea Dogs. Is there a precedent of that happening anywhere in the league? Not to mention there were zero alternate captains returning from last season, whereas the Sea Dogs currently have 2 guys that wore "A"s during the first half that are still with the team. Speaking of precedents. Benjamin Gagne was captain of the Quebec Remparts immediately prior to being traded to the Sea Dogs this time last year, but was not named captain when arriving here, even though the Sea Dogs were in need of a new captain and Campoli was a far less obvious choice than Deakin-Poot is. He was however given an "A". |
|
|
|
Post by bois on Dec 16, 2019 10:16:25 GMT -4
i'm not saying Durocher will be or should be named captain.... hell you might go captainless... that's happened many times when moving a captain mid season i just was saying i'd not completely rule it out
|
|
|
|
Post by j3e4 on Dec 16, 2019 10:58:24 GMT -4
i'm not saying Durocher will be or should be named captain.... hell you might go captainless... that's happened many times when moving a captain mid season i just was saying i'd not completely rule it out And I wasn't suggesting that you were suggesting he'd be captain. I was responding to the sarcastic suggestion that it would be the same thing as naming Guay captain at the start of the year. |
|
|
|
Post by Slap Shooter on Dec 16, 2019 11:31:56 GMT -4
I like the things Georgie said in the release about the Guay trade. sjseadogs.com/article/sea-dogs-open-trade-period-with-swap-of-overagers-picksThis trade is about the present and the future,” said Sea Dogs President & General Manager, Trevor Georgie. “Jeffrey Durocher has a lot of experience in the League, he plays hard and has been a captain before. I spoke with him earlier today and he is excited about the direction we’re going and looks forward to get to Saint John after Christmas. There are also other elements to this trade that we can’t share right now that align perfectly with our core and will be very important to our future cup runs.” |
|
|
|
Post by dogsfan1978 on Dec 16, 2019 12:24:16 GMT -4
I like the things Georgie said in the release about the Guay trade. sjseadogs.com/article/sea-dogs-open-trade-period-with-swap-of-overagers-picksThis trade is about the present and the future,” said Sea Dogs President & General Manager, Trevor Georgie. “Jeffrey Durocher has a lot of experience in the League, he plays hard and has been a captain before. I spoke with him earlier today and he is excited about the direction we’re going and looks forward to get to Saint John after Christmas. There are also other elements to this trade that we can’t share right now that align perfectly with our core and will be very important to our future cup runs.” Sorry for the stupid question but when are the details allowed to be released? At the draft? |
|
|
|
Post by yoyomamajoe on Dec 16, 2019 12:41:25 GMT -4
I would say that's the reason.
I always wonder if the player coming at the draft has already been informed about it? They must have agreed on a player already, so how do they keep that a secret? Are there conditions in place if the player agreed on gets hurt or falls off the chart? So, basically, how detailed are the trades with futures made up?
|
|
|
|
Post by ldub23 on Dec 16, 2019 15:40:33 GMT -4
The short answer is that the final details of the Guay - Durocher trade will be revealed during the next trade period (i.e. The Draft).
It's my understanding that the teams have agreed to the player(s) to be named later. However, the draft choices exchanged are included to guard against a serious injury. If the player(s) get hurt, the other team has the option to simply keep the associated draft choice(s).
As for the players, I also understand they are not informed until just prior to when the pending transaction is finalized/announced.
|
|
|
|
Post by Slap Shooter on Dec 16, 2019 15:56:33 GMT -4
Don't think we need a 18yr old depth D. We have that in Desroches and Musico. Right now we need to give our 17yr old as much ice time as possible. Agreed. From the sounds of it, they aren't targetting an 18 year old depth D but one in particular may have fallen into our lap, that should be able to help us out this season, so a step up from the others mentioned but not necessarily any better than the guys a year younger than him. If his specialty is defensee, then it could be a good addition, if it even happens. If it does happen, I'd expect Olivier Desroches to be traded. Any names floating around on who or who may not be this 18 year D that fell into our laps? I haven't heard any rumors floating around about a possible D coming in. |
|
|
|
Post by GallantUnit on Dec 16, 2019 16:55:02 GMT -4
Innis
|
|
