yojoe
Draft Pick
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Post by yojoe on Dec 19, 2021 16:24:02 GMT -4
Bellamy is back Just announced We traded a 20 yo DM for a 20 yo DM
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tal
Blue-Chip Prospect
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Post by tal on Dec 19, 2021 16:34:57 GMT -4
But - why?
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Post by Slammer on Dec 19, 2021 16:42:58 GMT -4
Why in the hell would they trade Desgroilliers for a draft pick and keep Jacob Stewart?
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Dec 19, 2021 17:10:53 GMT -4
Why in the hell would they trade Desgroilliers for a draft pick and keep Jacob Stewart? Well other than the fact that it’s possible desgro wanted to finish his career closer to home, they aren’t going to have 2 20s on D in a rebuilding season
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Post by lirette on Dec 19, 2021 17:20:48 GMT -4
Why in the hell would they trade Desgroilliers for a draft pick and keep Jacob Stewart? I think this one of those trades where you can't really think of the players as assets. Desgroillers likely wanted a different home, and Bathurst had an extra 20 after trading for Lafrance and had limited options for him, and Moncton accommodated. Bellamy seems like a guy who will end up playing AUS next season. The assets involved aren't astronomical by any means here, mid round picks 2-3 years away.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 19, 2021 19:06:16 GMT -4
Why in the hell would they trade Desgroilliers for a draft pick and keep Jacob Stewart? Well other than the fact that it’s possible desgro wanted to finish his career closer to home, they aren’t going to have 2 20s on D in a rebuilding season They should have figured that out before they traded a 3rd for him in June. So far in the last 6 months they have spent 2 3rds and a 4th and gotten a 6th back for OA's...in a rebuilding year.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 19, 2021 19:11:34 GMT -4
Why in the hell would they trade Desgroilliers for a draft pick and keep Jacob Stewart? I think this one of those trades where you can't really think of the players as assets. Desgroillers likely wanted a different home, and Bathurst had an extra 20 after trading for Lafrance and had limited options for him, and Moncton accommodated. Bellamy seems like a guy who will end up playing AUS next season. The assets involved aren't astronomical by any means here, mid round picks 2-3 years away. Pretty sure they could have found another cheap OA close to the deadline. in junior 3rd and 4th round picks are often good mid lineup guys that you don't have to trade other assets for...Iasenza Hudson Crossman Aspirot Holwell S.Johnson were all 3rd and 4th round picks the last 10 years.
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Dec 19, 2021 20:38:58 GMT -4
Well other than the fact that it’s possible desgro wanted to finish his career closer to home, they aren’t going to have 2 20s on D in a rebuilding season They should have figured that out before they traded a 3rd for him in June. So far in the last 6 months they have spent 2 3rds and a 4th and gotten a 6th back for OA's...in a rebuilding year. Yea but maybe in June it wasn’t an issue but with all the restrictions coming in etc maybe that’s what changed everything
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 19, 2021 22:03:19 GMT -4
They should have figured that out before they traded a 3rd for him in June. So far in the last 6 months they have spent 2 3rds and a 4th and gotten a 6th back for OA's...in a rebuilding year. Yea but maybe in June it wasn’t an issue but with all the restrictions coming in etc maybe that’s what changed everything Even if he wants out, in a rebuilding year, you can find a cheaper OA than Bellamy...unless they want to rebuild till 2030. Who are your core pieces going forward under 18? Morin? Loshing? Auger? Iasenza? Filion? The rest are question marks or depth guys, they need high picks and/or top young guys.
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Post by lirette on Dec 19, 2021 22:44:58 GMT -4
Well other than the fact that it’s possible desgro wanted to finish his career closer to home, they aren’t going to have 2 20s on D in a rebuilding season They should have figured that out before they traded a 3rd for him in June. So far in the last 6 months they have spent 2 3rds and a 4th and gotten a 6th back for OA's...in a rebuilding year. Sometimes in life situations change. I really can't imagine spending much energy stressing about a 4th round pick in 2024, who would be a possibly contributing player in 2026-2027. Perhaps it's because the cats lost out on what could have been the greatest season of their history due to the pandemic, but the energy just isn't there. The team has been performing extremely well to date, if they want to make a minor move on the back end to replace what they lost, but still get some better assets for 2-3 veteran players I can live with that. But I'll wait for the trade period to play out before saying this minor move will force then to rebuild till 2030. I'll save my concern for if they start buying 19 year old for early picks in the next 2 drafts.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 22, 2021 12:33:15 GMT -4
This should be a good guide to what Olson and Hamel are worth?
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Dec 22, 2021 16:30:37 GMT -4
This should be a good guide to what Olson and Hamel are worth? Do you think they're both worth a 2nd and 5th? Or a 2nd and 5th between the two of them?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 22, 2021 16:43:37 GMT -4
This should be a good guide to what Olson and Hamel are worth? Do you think they're both worth a 2nd and 5th? Or a 2nd and 5th between the two of them? Each, though they may keep one as an OA. Same for Labelle and Langlois. Also in the Gauthier trade the 2nd is likely futures.
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Post by jimmy on Dec 23, 2021 8:28:27 GMT -4
Do you think they're both worth a 2nd and 5th? Or a 2nd and 5th between the two of them? Each, though they may keep one as an OA. Same for Labelle and Langlois. Also in the Gauthier trade the 2nd is likely futures. Gauthier doesn't seem to be the calibre of player you trade futures for - have you heard something specific to suggest futures may be involved in this one, or are you just speculating?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Dec 23, 2021 8:35:45 GMT -4
Each, though they may keep one as an OA. Same for Labelle and Langlois. Also in the Gauthier trade the 2nd is likely futures. Gauthier doesn't seem to be the calibre of player you trade futures for - have you heard something specific to suggest futures may be involved in this one, or are you just speculating? Just speculation based on it being a 2024 pick.
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