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Post by Briwhel on May 16, 2023 15:29:30 GMT -4
According to Steve Turcotte Steven Leal is still trying to buy the Titan, apparently the team plans to present an agreement to the league at the general meeting in June. And all of this crap doesn't change the fact that the majority of owners don't support the idea of the Titan moving. |
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Post by JEagle on May 16, 2023 15:54:47 GMT -4
According to Steve Turcotte Steven Leal is still trying to buy the Titan, apparently the team plans to present an agreement to the league at the general meeting in June. And all of this crap doesn't change the fact that the majority of owners don't support the idea of the Titan moving. Your right it doesn't change that fact, but the majority of owners rejecting the move won't have a choice eventually if the current owners of the Titan end up not being able to paid the bills in a couple of seasons, by that point it's either sell the team to maintain an 18 team league or fold the franchise either way it's a shitty situation for Titan fans. |
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Post by jordo999 on May 17, 2023 10:46:24 GMT -4
really disappointing for us overall...and we've all talked about this before but the issues of this team goes way back, unfortunately they tried to do the right things too late. A lot of the old fans/season ticket holders never came back.
What's crazy is Bathurst is actually growing a bit in population so it could be possible to get more fans over time but I don't think there is enough time and commitment in order to get where they need to be over the next couple of seasons.
At heart I hope they don't leave as Q hockey is one of the best things about Bathurst in general and a lot of people feel that way.
we realistically could end up with a Jr. A team down the road but that isn't the same level of interest for myself personally.
where on the map is a realistic place for this team to play that could be successful?
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Post by Briwhel on May 17, 2023 10:56:53 GMT -4
really disappointing for us overall...and we've all talked about this before but the issues of this team goes way back, unfortunately they tried to do the right things too late. A lot of the old fans/season ticket holders never came back. What's crazy is Bathurst is actually growing a bit in population so it could be possible to get more fans over time but I don't think there is enough time and commitment in order to get where they need to be over the next couple of seasons. At heart I hope they don't leave as Q hockey is one of the best things about Bathurst in general and a lot of people feel that way. we realistically could end up with a Jr. A team down the road but that isn't the same level of interest for myself personally. where on the map is a realistic place for this team to play that could be successful? Bathurst is the best chance the Q has IMO. The Quebec cities talked about either have no arena, have another team, or are in a market that won't support junior. |
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Post by jimmy on May 17, 2023 11:14:47 GMT -4
really disappointing for us overall...and we've all talked about this before but the issues of this team goes way back, unfortunately they tried to do the right things too late. A lot of the old fans/season ticket holders never came back. What's crazy is Bathurst is actually growing a bit in population so it could be possible to get more fans over time but I don't think there is enough time and commitment in order to get where they need to be over the next couple of seasons. At heart I hope they don't leave as Q hockey is one of the best things about Bathurst in general and a lot of people feel that way. we realistically could end up with a Jr. A team down the road but that isn't the same level of interest for myself personally. where on the map is a realistic place for this team to play that could be successful? Bathurst is the best chance the Q has IMO. The Quebec cities talked about either have no arena, have another team, or are in a market that won't support junior. Not sure if Bathurst is the BEST option ... but there are no slam dunk better ones - otherwise they would have been gone years ago. Other options are either no bigger or lack the proper facilities as you say ... but at some point, taking a chance on one of them will likely be more appealing than the known status quo. |
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Post by jordo999 on May 17, 2023 11:40:12 GMT -4
I think the next 2 seasons will likely determine what happens next, if the Titan can finally bring in more fans from the growing population maybe it changes something but that's extremely hopeful on my part...
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Post by dogshockeyfan on May 17, 2023 12:40:56 GMT -4
I hope it works out. Id love to see the league grow more in Atlantic Canada. Be nice to see Fredericton get a team, maybe Summerside or try the US again with Bangor or something.
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 17, 2023 13:00:13 GMT -4
really disappointing for us overall...and we've all talked about this before but the issues of this team goes way back, unfortunately they tried to do the right things too late. A lot of the old fans/season ticket holders never came back. What's crazy is Bathurst is actually growing a bit in population so it could be possible to get more fans over time but I don't think there is enough time and commitment in order to get where they need to be over the next couple of seasons. At heart I hope they don't leave as Q hockey is one of the best things about Bathurst in general and a lot of people feel that way. we realistically could end up with a Jr. A team down the road but that isn't the same level of interest for myself personally. where on the map is a realistic place for this team to play that could be successful? Bathurst is the best chance the Q has IMO. The Quebec cities talked about either have no arena, have another team, or are in a market that won't support junior. Trois Rivieres makes a lot of sense if the pull the plug on ECHL, same can be said for St.johns if somebody with deep pockets is involved. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 17, 2023 13:00:44 GMT -4
I hope it works out. Id love to see the league grow more in Atlantic Canada. Be nice to see Fredericton get a team, maybe Summerside or try the US again with Bangor or something. Bangor is a very tough sell with the Maine Black Bears next door in Orno. |
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Post by ysj28 on May 17, 2023 13:10:34 GMT -4
Bangor is lacking an ice rink big enough to hold the Q.
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Post by hal on May 17, 2023 13:31:41 GMT -4
St John's
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Post by jordo999 on May 17, 2023 15:06:31 GMT -4
curious about the Saint John's suggestions, I don't remember exactly what happened in the past but there was a team there and they ultimately ended up leaving. Also don't they have an ECHL team as well? Not sure if it can support both a Q team and an ECHL team.
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Post by ysj28 on May 17, 2023 15:17:27 GMT -4
curious about the Saint John's suggestions, I don't remember exactly what happened in the past but there was a team there and they ultimately ended up leaving. Also don't they have an ECHL team as well? Not sure if it can support both a Q team and an ECHL team. The Fog Devils essentially ran out of money and were bought by a businessman from Quebec who moved them to Verdun who in turn sold them to a group led by Joel Bouchard who moved them to Blainville. St. John's currently has the ECHL Newfoundland Growlers and they are doing decent attendance wise - they attracted 3,800 in the regular season and are averaging just over 4,000 in the playoffs. I don't think that St. John's is a Junior hockey town. |
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Post by Smiley on May 17, 2023 17:21:32 GMT -4
curious about the Saint John's suggestions, I don't remember exactly what happened in the past but there was a team there and they ultimately ended up leaving. Also don't they have an ECHL team as well? Not sure if it can support both a Q team and an ECHL team. The Fog Devils essentially ran out of money and were bought by a businessman from Quebec who moved them to Verdun who in turn sold them to a group led by Joel Bouchard who moved them to Blainville. St. John's currently has the ECHL Newfoundland Growlers and they are doing decent attendance wise - they attracted 3,800 in the regular season and are averaging just over 4,000 in the playoffs. I don't think that St. John's is a Junior hockey town. It's not as simple as "the owners ran out of money." There were two groups competing for the Q franchise after the Maple Leafs left. The league picked the Dobbin backed group over the group that was affiliated with Mile One Arena. Thus the lease agreements were horrible, there was no real way that the Fog Devils would make money...it was drama after drama with the Fog Devils and Mile One. So they couldn't make money, also St John's fans just expected the AHL to come right back so they looked at the Q as a lesser product. For the Q to succeed there, pro hockey has to disappear for a year or two where they don't get any hockey. But that won't happen with the Growlers there now. Fast forward and you saw the Growlers also have drama with the arena and it reached a boiling point this season. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 17, 2023 23:21:06 GMT -4
really disappointing for us overall...and we've all talked about this before but the issues of this team goes way back, unfortunately they tried to do the right things too late. A lot of the old fans/season ticket holders never came back. What's crazy is Bathurst is actually growing a bit in population so it could be possible to get more fans over time but I don't think there is enough time and commitment in order to get where they need to be over the next couple of seasons. At heart I hope they don't leave as Q hockey is one of the best things about Bathurst in general and a lot of people feel that way. we realistically could end up with a Jr. A team down the road but that isn't the same level of interest for myself personally. where on the map is a realistic place for this team to play that could be successful? If Bathurst is like the rest of the country the population growth isn't due to the great economy keeping people home and willing to have 3-4 kids to raise. It's immigration. Those folks aren't buying hockey tickets in any kind of measureable numbers. Great for our communities in many other ways...food, culture, educational, etc...but right now higher populations don't do a thing for local hockey teams. Whats going for Bathurst is the lack of real alternative markets that are slam dunk successes. There's a pile of comparables that won't survive QMJHL rebuilds. Ultimately the league has to decide if its going to put systems in place to support markets of this size or contract back to 14-16 teams. I see way more value in finding ways to provide some revenue sharing...especially if we're still going to cap what Quebec and Halifax can spend on Euro's and American's. |
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