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Post by aquilae on Oct 10, 2024 8:29:22 GMT -4
what I wanted to say this guy isn't even a journalist and what are his sources, but then I saw this poll posted on the **English** Q page: Putting aside that this is an odd poll to begin with, your options are 2 french teams that I can't imagine anybody saw too often, the only non Canadian team and St.John's. Seems a bit skewed, eh? the chevaliers is an odd addition to this poll lol. they moved to victo several years before there was a team in the maritimes. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Oct 10, 2024 8:35:20 GMT -4
The price for air travel for all teams would require an incredible budget. This would cost between $175K and $250K for transportation. It would really have to be worth it. It is sad for the people of Acadia to read this. The travel budget meant less then the arena lease it seemed like during the first go around. Could be some local government money tossed in there too with the right people involved. |
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Post by midgetfan on Oct 10, 2024 9:28:11 GMT -4
The price for air travel for all teams would require an incredible budget. This would cost between $175K and $250K for transportation. It would really have to be worth it. It is sad for the people of Acadia to read this. The travel budget meant less then the arena lease it seemed like during the first go around. Could be some local government money tossed in there too with the right people involved. It absolutely was the arena lease, fueled by the sour grapes of the talking heads from the city who were involved in their own unsuccessful bid to own the franchise putting the screws to the Dobbins any chance they got. The travel was a pain to be sure, but it was exasperated by Air Transat going belly up. They had a contract with them at reasonable rates, and then had to scramble to find alternate arrangements. That was the straw that broke the camel's back for the Dobbins. From what I can gather around town, Glen Stanford is leading the charge for the team, much like he did with the Growlers. He is doing so in tandem this time with SJSE (the city's stadium arm). The new CEO of SJSE is a former Government of NL Deputy Minister who is well connected and focused on getting hockey back. The lease won't be an issue this time around if it comes to fruition. All that is to say that is still going to be a likely money loser. Whoever ends up eating the deficit and whether they care or not will ultimately tell the tale. I do think it can work with the right backer assuming they go into it knowing they will likely take a haircut, and truthfully some of the names I'm hearing would enjoy the ego boost from being involved. |
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Post by midgetfan on Oct 10, 2024 9:30:33 GMT -4
Also, that guy is not a well connected journalist around here so I don't put much stock in that "report" in terms of finality. But I have definitely heard all these same things.
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Post by ysj28 on Oct 10, 2024 15:00:49 GMT -4
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Post by markofthebeast on Oct 11, 2024 19:59:02 GMT -4
Good evening guys and gals, it’s been a while!! I hope everyone has been keeping well. Looks like there’s some more smoke here and while I would love to see Q hockey back in Sin Jawns once more I can’t help feel for you Titan fans and remember how much it sucked. Most of you I interacted with were class acts with the exception of one gentleman but that was ages ago anyway whatever happens I’m definitely feeling for you guys and wouldn’t be sad if someone local jumps in to save them. Best of luck here’s the link to the article where it says an announcement could be as early as Tuesday. vocm.com/2024/10/11/titan/ |
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Post by JEagle on Oct 13, 2024 15:30:23 GMT -4
CBC New Brunswick article from Friday talking about the rumour.
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Post by galixon on Oct 14, 2024 12:27:46 GMT -4
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Post by midgetfan on Oct 14, 2024 19:50:37 GMT -4
Good evening guys and gals, it’s been a while!! I hope everyone has been keeping well. Looks like there’s some more smoke here and while I would love to see Q hockey back in Sin Jawns once more I can’t help feel for you Titan fans and remember how much it sucked. Most of you I interacted with were class acts with the exception of one gentleman but that was ages ago anyway whatever happens I’m definitely feeling for you guys and wouldn’t be sad if someone local jumps in to save them. Best of luck here’s the link to the article where it says an announcement could be as early as Tuesday. vocm.com/2024/10/11/titan/I can’t imagine there would be an announcement without BOG approval. So this sounds like it’s based on the Fletjam fellow |
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Post by ysj28 on Oct 15, 2024 7:03:39 GMT -4
From St. John's Telegram:
Is a process actually underway to attempt to bring a QMJHL team to St. John’s?
Oh yes.
Beyond just the confirmation from Marek, St. John’s Sports and Entertainment CEO Brent Meade recently and politely declined an interview request from the Telegram when we reached out in an attempt to do a business-focused story about the city’s economic benefits of having an anchor hockey tenant playing at the Mary Brown’s Centre.
The reason he cited for declining the request was because “We are in the search for a new hockey tenant.”
Additionally, the QMJHL provided an official statement about the situation, saying “The process of selling the (Acadie-Bathurst) Titan started in January and is continuing under the supervision of Ernst and Young. We will comment at the conclusion of the process.”
Multiple sources close to The Telegram have indicated that both processes are indeed related to one another, so this can be taken as a clear indication that real work is underway to try and make this a reality.
Is there an announcement coming Tuesday or at any point this week?
Despite several reports of the contrary, our sources have indicated the answer is a hard no.
As Marek’s tweet suggests, there are many details to iron out before a deal is done, including the elephant in the room of who will pay for teams’ travel in and out of St. John’s.
The Telegram’s sources have confirmed the same. There is no deal in place and while the process is confirmed to be ongoing, it is not far enough along to believe anything resembling an announcement would be imminent.
Thinking critically about the business realities of the situation, this makes some logical sense, too.
If a sale were finalized just a few weeks into the current QMJHL season, the new ownership group would presume to then be on the hook for that season’s losses, which would be exacerbated by the inevitable immediate drop in ticket sales in Bathurst.
With margins in the hockey business being pretty thin to begin with, especially when it comes to operating a team in Newfoundland and Labrador, it simply wouldn’t make a ton of business sense.
And, for what it’s worth, when the former St. John’s Fog Devils were sold to Montreal businessman Farrell Miller in 2008, the sale was first announced in January and the relocation was confirmed at a press conference in March.
There is no logical reason, nor proof, to believe an announcement is pending.
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Post by davo1997 on Oct 15, 2024 7:57:06 GMT -4
Been Holding my tongue on this simply pissed off at how all this is seeming to be true. Its like im pending a really bad break up. I was born in 1998 without this team in the town i dont know what im going to do absolutely loved and will never forgot all the good memories from watching i was in the rink in 2018 when they won.
Now Onto the furture if they are gone. I certainly wont be cheering for the fog dogs or whaterver they are gonna call the team. I just dont see how hockey will work there especially in a league where the best players can basically choose where they want to play. I think this team struggles to get guys to report and just racks a bill for the other teams.
Nothing will work Hockey related in Newfoundland its the atlanta of hockey in canada it just wont work. Maybe im wrong maybe the 5th time is the charm They had ECHL, AHL, QMJHL and they all fumbled fast.
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Post by midgetfan on Oct 15, 2024 8:27:19 GMT -4
Been Holding my tongue on this simply pissed off at how all this is seeming to be true. Its like im pending a really bad break up. I was born in 1998 without this team in the town i dont know what im going to do absolutely loved and will never forgot all the good memories from watching i was in the rink in 2018 when they won. Now Onto the furture if they are gone. I certainly wont be cheering for the fog dogs or whaterver they are gonna call the team. I just dont see how hockey will work there especially in a league where the best players can basically choose where they want to play. I think this team struggles to get guys to report and just racks a bill for the other teams. Nothing will work Hockey related in Newfoundland its the atlanta of hockey in canada it just wont work. Maybe im wrong maybe the 5th time is the charm They had ECHL, AHL, QMJHL and they all fumbled fast. They did not all fumble fast. The Fog Devils did, and the Growlers did. They were victims of the owners' missteps. The AHL teams left on their own accord to be closer to home. That is simply the fact. It certainly is not without challenges, but major junior hockey can work in St. John's. The Fog Devils never actually had recruiting issues. St. John's is a great city to live in, and the players really enjoyed it. |
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Post by scotiahockey on Oct 15, 2024 8:28:43 GMT -4
Been Holding my tongue on this simply pissed off at how all this is seeming to be true. Its like im pending a really bad break up. I was born in 1998 without this team in the town i dont know what im going to do absolutely loved and will never forgot all the good memories from watching i was in the rink in 2018 when they won. Now Onto the furture if they are gone. I certainly wont be cheering for the fog dogs or whaterver they are gonna call the team. I just dont see how hockey will work there especially in a league where the best players can basically choose where they want to play. I think this team struggles to get guys to report and just racks a bill for the other teams. Nothing will work Hockey related in Newfoundland its the atlanta of hockey in canada it just wont work. Maybe im wrong maybe the 5th time is the charm They had ECHL, AHL, QMJHL and they all fumbled fast. It may never work in Newfoundland but as we sorta already know, it’s not really working in Bathurst anymore either. They haven’t averaged 2000 fans in like 15 years and are consistently near the bottom of the league in attendance. Fans aren’t willing to support the product and it looks like they’ve run out of local business people willing to foot the bill. It’s unfortunate if the Titan do move but it’d also be crazy to continue trying to make the team work in Bathurst, when it’s clear the community and fans aren’t willing to support it enough to keep it there. |
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Post by davo1997 on Oct 15, 2024 8:43:24 GMT -4
Been Holding my tongue on this simply pissed off at how all this is seeming to be true. Its like im pending a really bad break up. I was born in 1998 without this team in the town i dont know what im going to do absolutely loved and will never forgot all the good memories from watching i was in the rink in 2018 when they won. Now Onto the furture if they are gone. I certainly wont be cheering for the fog dogs or whaterver they are gonna call the team. I just dont see how hockey will work there especially in a league where the best players can basically choose where they want to play. I think this team struggles to get guys to report and just racks a bill for the other teams. Nothing will work Hockey related in Newfoundland its the atlanta of hockey in canada it just wont work. Maybe im wrong maybe the 5th time is the charm They had ECHL, AHL, QMJHL and they all fumbled fast. They did not all fumble fast. The Fog Devils did, and the Growlers did. They were victims of the owners' missteps. The AHL teams left on their own accord to be closer to home. That is simply the fact. It certainly is not without challenges, but major junior hockey can work in St. John's. The Fog Devils never actually had recruiting issues. St. John's is a great city to live in, and the players really enjoyed it. Its not about the city its about the commute. These teams fumbled big time 4 years is a fast fumble |
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Post by davo1997 on Oct 15, 2024 8:47:01 GMT -4
Been Holding my tongue on this simply pissed off at how all this is seeming to be true. Its like im pending a really bad break up. I was born in 1998 without this team in the town i dont know what im going to do absolutely loved and will never forgot all the good memories from watching i was in the rink in 2018 when they won. Now Onto the furture if they are gone. I certainly wont be cheering for the fog dogs or whaterver they are gonna call the team. I just dont see how hockey will work there especially in a league where the best players can basically choose where they want to play. I think this team struggles to get guys to report and just racks a bill for the other teams. Nothing will work Hockey related in Newfoundland its the atlanta of hockey in canada it just wont work. Maybe im wrong maybe the 5th time is the charm They had ECHL, AHL, QMJHL and they all fumbled fast. It may never work in Newfoundland but as we sorta already know, it’s not really working in Bathurst anymore either. They haven’t averaged 2000 fans in like 15 years and are consistently near the bottom of the league in attendance. Fans aren’t willing to support the product and it looks like they’ve run out of local business people willing to foot the bill. It’s unfortunate if the Titan do move but it’d also be crazy to continue trying to make the team work in Bathurst, when it’s clear the community and fans aren’t willing to support it enough to keep it there. not saying its working here but it wont work there. I talked to a reliable source today he said the team isnt moving but needs to start showing progress could be smoke for sure but hey the whole thing could be smoke. titans sell out when they are good not ideal but we can bring a crowd. |
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