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Post by greger on Nov 14, 2022 16:12:11 GMT -4
What kind of return should we expect for MacDonald, Reynolds, Burns and Hurtubise?
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 14, 2022 19:33:17 GMT -4
What kind of return should we expect for MacDonald, Reynolds, Burns and Hurtubise? here is my $0.02... MacDonald if he stays at a PPGM pace I think he is worth a 1st round pick plus maybe a mid rounder. 1st can also be a good young player who is 2021 drafted. Reynolds being undrafted and likely to be an OA, I think he is worth a 1st plus maybe a 2nd or similar valued young players. Burns is a tough one, he has solid OA production but doesn't have a great reputation around the league. He may or may not be worth moving, I think his max value is like a 2nd and 5th rounder if a team doesn't see him as a problem in the room. Hurtubise value is dicey as well, he's a proven commodity but is there a contender looking for a goalie and with an OA spot...plus there are many OA goalies this year that could move(Lapenna Coulombe Adam Lavallee Couture) and all of them are on non contenders. Best case is another 1st or 2nd or comparable prospect. |
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Post by puckguru on Nov 14, 2022 20:38:47 GMT -4
Keep seeing posts about Burns attitude. Just wondering if everyone knows the kid or his upbringing. He seems to do whatever is asked of him. Would like to see someone ask Gardner McDougall about his attitude when he comes back for Lady Mo night. Don’t know him but looks like a kid who loves hockey and not sure there is a lot of them anymore.
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Post by Citris on Nov 15, 2022 0:53:11 GMT -4
What kind of return should we expect for MacDonald, Reynolds, Burns and Hurtubise? here is my $0.02... MacDonald if he stays at a PPGM pace I think he is worth a 1st round pick plus maybe a mid rounder. 1st can also be a good young player who is 2021 drafted. Reynolds being undrafted and likely to be an OA, I think he is worth a 1st plus maybe a 2nd or similar valued young players. Burns is a tough one, he has solid OA production but doesn't have a great reputation around the league. He may or may not be worth moving, I think his max value is like a 2nd and 5th rounder if a team doesn't see him as a problem in the room. Hurtubise value is dicey as well, he's a proven commodity but is there a contender looking for a goalie and with an OA spot...plus there are many OA goalies this year that could move(Lapenna Coulombe Adam Lavallee Couture) and all of them are on non contenders. Best case is another 1st or 2nd or comparable prospect. Availability may drive prices down on 20yo netminders, and Hurtubise has been Hurt-ubise more often than not this season (sorry.) I can see a situation where many of them stay with their current clubs just because the return isn't there. Quebec is set for 20's and goalies, Sherbrooke has a 20 year old goalie who has been outstanding... Halifax may have a spot but... the Halifax/SJ relationship... Gatineau isn't really a fit and Victo's biggest strength is goaltending. The only plausible team I could see is the Volts if they want to try to make some noise and Mercer's health is uncertain |
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Post by jdubs23 on Nov 15, 2022 12:04:17 GMT -4
Would there be an appetite for Trenholm anywhere? 19yo center with memorial cup experience.
I forgot how much was involved in his trade:
SJ received
Trenholm
3rd in '22
2nd in '23
3rd in '23
3rd in '24
CB received
Savoie
McCluskey
1st in '24
2nd in '23
3rd in '24
7th in '24
8th in '24
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Post by galixon on Nov 15, 2022 14:24:59 GMT -4
Keep seeing posts about Burns attitude. Just wondering if everyone knows the kid or his upbringing. He seems to do whatever is asked of him. Would like to see someone ask Gardner McDougall about his attitude when he comes back for Lady Mo night. Don’t know him but looks like a kid who loves hockey and not sure there is a lot of them anymore. His father is a douch. He is the coach the Acadia Axeman and if you ask anyone in that area he is the worst coach in the league. When you refrence Gardner McDougall that is most likely the reason he got buy in from Burns right away because the relationship with Burns and McDougall. I dont know anything about Burns but if he is anything like his father then.... Plus, all you have to do is watch him during a game and you can see the attitude. Every call he's yapping at the refs and throwing his hands up in the air, etc.. |
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Post by statsman18 on Nov 15, 2022 15:20:17 GMT -4
here is my $0.02... MacDonald if he stays at a PPGM pace I think he is worth a 1st round pick plus maybe a mid rounder. 1st can also be a good young player who is 2021 drafted. Reynolds being undrafted and likely to be an OA, I think he is worth a 1st plus maybe a 2nd or similar valued young players. Burns is a tough one, he has solid OA production but doesn't have a great reputation around the league. He may or may not be worth moving, I think his max value is like a 2nd and 5th rounder if a team doesn't see him as a problem in the room. Hurtubise value is dicey as well, he's a proven commodity but is there a contender looking for a goalie and with an OA spot...plus there are many OA goalies this year that could move(Lapenna Coulombe Adam Lavallee Couture) and all of them are on non contenders. Best case is another 1st or 2nd or comparable prospect. Availability may drive prices down on 20yo netminders, and Hurtubise has been Hurt-ubise more often than not this season (sorry.) I can see a situation where many of them stay with their current clubs just because the return isn't there. Quebec is set for 20's and goalies, Sherbrooke has a 20 year old goalie who has been outstanding... Halifax may have a spot but... the Halifax/SJ relationship... Gatineau isn't really a fit and Victo's biggest strength is goaltending. The only plausible team I could see is the Volts if they want to try to make some noise and Mercer's health is uncertain Not to mention he can’t go back to Victo. |
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Post by statsman18 on Nov 15, 2022 15:22:29 GMT -4
Would there be an appetite for Trenholm anywhere? 19yo center with memorial cup experience. I forgot how much was involved in his trade: SJ received
Trenholm 3rd in '22 2nd in '23 3rd in '23 3rd in '24 CB receivedSavoie McCluskey 1st in '24 2nd in '23 3rd in '24 7th in '24 8th in '24 I think he would be great in Halifax but we all know that probably never happens. |
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Post by Citris on Nov 15, 2022 15:34:10 GMT -4
Not to mention he can’t go back to Victo. Yea I only thought about that after I posted it. Tho upon further research I GUESS Gatineau could maybe be a possibility? They've already brought in a 20 YO free agent and Despatie seems to be struggling... that said, their Captain Manix Landry is probably coming back after Christmas, they'd have to cut a 20 y/o to make it happen. |
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Post by puckguru on Nov 15, 2022 21:52:26 GMT -4
Keep seeing posts about Burns attitude. Just wondering if everyone knows the kid or his upbringing. He seems to do whatever is asked of him. Would like to see someone ask Gardner McDougall about his attitude when he comes back for Lady Mo night. Don’t know him but looks like a kid who loves hockey and not sure there is a lot of them anymore. His father is a douch. He is the coach the Acadia Axeman and if you ask anyone in that area he is the worst coach in the league. When you refrence Gardner McDougall that is most likely the reason he got buy in from Burns right away because the relationship with Burns and McDougall. I dont know anything about Burns but if he is anything like his father then.... |
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Post by greger on Nov 16, 2022 1:46:43 GMT -4
here is my $0.02... MacDonald if he stays at a PPGM pace I think he is worth a 1st round pick plus maybe a mid rounder. 1st can also be a good young player who is 2021 drafted. Reynolds being undrafted and likely to be an OA, I think he is worth a 1st plus maybe a 2nd or similar valued young players. Burns is a tough one, he has solid OA production but doesn't have a great reputation around the league. He may or may not be worth moving, I think his max value is like a 2nd and 5th rounder if a team doesn't see him as a problem in the room. Hurtubise value is dicey as well, he's a proven commodity but is there a contender looking for a goalie and with an OA spot...plus there are many OA goalies this year that could move(Lapenna Coulombe Adam Lavallee Couture) and all of them are on non contenders. Best case is another 1st or 2nd or comparable prospect. Availability may drive prices down on 20yo netminders, and Hurtubise has been Hurt-ubise more often than not this season (sorry.) I can see a situation where many of them stay with their current clubs just because the return isn't there. Quebec is set for 20's and goalies, Sherbrooke has a 20 year old goalie who has been outstanding... Halifax may have a spot but... the Halifax/SJ relationship... Gatineau isn't really a fit and Victo's biggest strength is goaltending. The only plausible team I could see is the Volts if they want to try to make some noise and Mercer's health is uncertain Hurt-ubise is still the guy any team would want in the pipes in a game 7... after all I believe he is the only player in the CHL that has won 2 championships. I may be wrong but I think he's still worth a lot, we will see |
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 16, 2022 14:40:37 GMT -4
Everyone is available
Desroches would be the top OA RD (possibly top OA D) if it weren't for Biaka in Charlottetown.
Cosman has been playing very well and could be in demand as a non-20D.
Despont could potentially be depth on a better team.
MacDonald is a bit unique on the market (offensive PF)
Reynolds is a 1.5 year forward (prbably the 3rd best pure offensive non-OA, non-Euro player available depending on your opinion of Melanson)
Burns is a good offensive OA and has been playing hard at both ends all year.
I don't think we will get offered value for Trenholm.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Nov 16, 2022 18:40:10 GMT -4
Everyone is available Desroches would be the top OA RD (possibly top OA D) if it weren't for Biaka in Charlottetown. Cosman has been playing very well and could be in demand as a non-20D. Despont could potentially be depth on a better team. MacDonald is a bit unique on the market (offensive PF) Reynolds is a 1.5 year forward (prbably the 3rd best pure offensive non-OA, non-Euro player available depending on your opinion of Melanson) Burns is a good offensive OA and has been playing hard at both ends all year. I don't think we will get offered value for Trenholm. In a full blow rebuild with lots of options, you move the guys that bring you most value and keep those that don't for leadership and stability. |
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Post by moosedogleaf on Nov 16, 2022 20:57:44 GMT -4
His father is a douch. He is the coach the Acadia Axeman and if you ask anyone in that area he is the worst coach in the league. When you refrence Gardner McDougall that is most likely the reason he got buy in from Burns right away because the relationship with Burns and McDougall. I dont know anything about Burns but if he is anything like his father then.... I always find it interesting that some posters make general, detrimental remarks and support them with very "ask anyone" type of comments to support their point of view. While I do not know Brady, I do believe that he has always given his best given the drawback that his size creates. Although, I did notice that he was one of the regulars - top 3 lines in the Memorial Cup - didn't score but played very good two way hockey on arguably their best overall line in the Mem Cup (Lawrence, Ansons, Burns). With respect to the comments regarding Darren Burns - I do know Darren quite well. He is an outstanding hockey mind who has spent his life in the game. As a side note, Darren and Gardiner coached the Canadian (?) University Team in the World Championships in the past - I do believe they won. Not bad for a douch!! |
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Post by rookieq on Nov 16, 2022 22:56:09 GMT -4
There is a lot of assets that would fit perfectly in Halifax this year and could bring a lot of return back. But we all know it will not happen unless kids become adult, lol. Crazy how this bickering unfolded in recent years.
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