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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2023 11:17:16 GMT -4
12 months ago we were picking 1st overall. Now we've just decided we want to contend. And they wonder why so many of us just refuse to spend any tangible amount of money on this outlet of "entertainment".
So extremely infuriating and frustrating.
This should have been a team adding another top 10 pick to its youth and looking ahead to 24/25 and 25/26.
But here we are like its 2010 all over again and our management has just decided to contend even though there's few proven building blocks in place while we're trying to beat a team like Halifax returning a huge part of an already proven championship contender.
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 8, 2023 11:24:36 GMT -4
Komarov should be one of, if not the top euro D in the league, so if the price isn't too high due to compensation, could likely move him for more to a contender. Rouyn could likely upgrade on Hujer, can't see them going for a championship with him as one of their euros. Bourash is a lock for sure. AND Rouyn needs more top end D besides Langlois and Gill.
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 8, 2023 11:24:37 GMT -4
12 months ago we were picking 1st overall. Now we've just decided we want to contend. And they wonder why so many of us just refuse to spend any tangible amount of money on this outlet of "entertainment". So extremely infuriating and frustrating. This should have been a team adding another top 10 pick to its youth and looking ahead to 24/25 and 25/26. But here we are like its 2010 all over again and our management has just decided to contend even though there's few proven building blocks in place while we're trying to beat a team like Halifax returning a huge part of an already proven championship contender. chicoutimi is doing it right. They really hit on masse at 3rd overall last year. Now it looks lile they will have 4 picks in the top 8 this year. Eagles should take note on proper rebuild. |
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Post by sc74 on Jun 8, 2023 11:28:06 GMT -4
I can see Shortall being flipped in a trade for a overage forward. Owen Conrad is a possibility at #12 too, so you’d want to have the space to slot him in somewhere. Could start the season as: Biggar-Lavoie Daigle-Schmitt Waugh-Conrad X-Desjardins Komarov is coming as part of the deal! Heard from an inside source. As part of which deal? |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2023 12:01:31 GMT -4
Komarov should be one of, if not the top euro D in the league, so if the price isn't too high due to compensation, could likely move him for more to a contender. Rouyn could likely upgrade on Hujer, can't see them going for a championship with him as one of their euros. Bourash is a lock for sure. AND Rouyn needs more top end D besides Langlois and Gill. A) If he's part of the Langlois deal why isn't he here? We made the 2nd part of that trade already. B) If we're buying him today how is it a positive of what we could flip him for in 6 months? The revolving door of constantly moving bodies in and out of here is a huge reason we have the image issue we do. We move some 2nd rounders and essentially move them for a late 1st in 6 months. Give the fan base even more reason to roll their eyes during another Xmas rebuild when there's no huge gain from both moves. Just keep the assets and draft and develop. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2023 12:09:16 GMT -4
12 months ago we were picking 1st overall. Now we've just decided we want to contend. And they wonder why so many of us just refuse to spend any tangible amount of money on this outlet of "entertainment". So extremely infuriating and frustrating. This should have been a team adding another top 10 pick to its youth and looking ahead to 24/25 and 25/26. But here we are like its 2010 all over again and our management has just decided to contend even though there's few proven building blocks in place while we're trying to beat a team like Halifax returning a huge part of an already proven championship contender. chicoutimi is doing it right. They really hit on masse at 3rd overall last year. Now it looks lile they will have 4 picks in the top 8 this year. Eagles should take note on proper rebuild. And they traded for Desruisseaux. There's many examples of drafting and developing and making smart deals that line up with existing young talent. We're just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks. They tell us they need to sell seats while doing things that will be driving us right back into a rebuild while not even taking the proper time to see if the core they're drafting and developing has the talent and the depth to form a contender. And to top it all off...the players they're acquiring are not the top end players you build winners around. If Schmitt went to Moncton or Halifax for the same price we paid would anyone here have viewed it as a huge loss? Did anyone feel like they lost out on Newcombe when we brought him in? Good kids who have talent but I still view them as secondary pieces if you're actually serious about winning anything meaning even more high picks and kids have to go to put championship pieces in place. |
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Post by sc74 on Jun 8, 2023 12:17:10 GMT -4
Komarov should be one of, if not the top euro D in the league, so if the price isn't too high due to compensation, could likely move him for more to a contender. Rouyn could likely upgrade on Hujer, can't see them going for a championship with him as one of their euros. Bourash is a lock for sure. AND Rouyn needs more top end D besides Langlois and Gill. A) If he's part of the Langlois deal why isn't he here? We made the 2nd part of that trade already. B) If we're buying him today how is it a positive of what we could flip him for in 6 months? The revolving door of constantly moving bodies in and out of here is a huge reason we have the image issue we do. We move some 2nd rounders and essentially move them for a late 1st in 6 months. Give the fan base even more reason to roll their eyes during another Xmas rebuild when there's no huge gain from both moves. Just keep the assets and draft and develop. The Langlois deal is over. Komarov wasn’t part of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2023 12:22:27 GMT -4
A) If he's part of the Langlois deal why isn't he here? We made the 2nd part of that trade already. B) If we're buying him today how is it a positive of what we could flip him for in 6 months? The revolving door of constantly moving bodies in and out of here is a huge reason we have the image issue we do. We move some 2nd rounders and essentially move them for a late 1st in 6 months. Give the fan base even more reason to roll their eyes during another Xmas rebuild when there's no huge gain from both moves. Just keep the assets and draft and develop. The Langlois deal is over. Komarov wasn’t part of it. I think we all agree it's over, that's not to say Sly won't make a move to aquire him. For all we know, there was a handshake deal on this , where Que agreed to a player coming back. At the time you could not predict the RN deal, but you could have included a clause that sends those picks back to QUE for a player. I would say there is less then a 0% chance Cape picks 3 times in the 2nd round Saturday. |
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Post by JEagle on Jun 8, 2023 13:25:38 GMT -4
The 2003-2004 season the Eagles made the boomerang trade with Halifax that ended up failing spectacularly in the playoffs.
At the time Greg Lynch opted to not fire Pascal Vincent because of the failure and the organization at least for a short time learned from it's failure that you can't trade your way to a President's Cup.
Now here we are on the 20th anniversary season of the boomerang trade with a new majority owner, a new GM and a new Head Coach seemingly about to repeat the same mistakes of the past trying to trade our way to a championship.
This organization from a hockey operations side of things has always seemed to refuse to look outside itself to realize where they stand against their competition and what their competitors are doing that allows them to be successful at this level, it's that refusal that has lead them to only two semi-final appearances in twenty-six seasons and now they're refusing to even look at their own history...it's beyond embarrassing.
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Post by JEagle on Jun 8, 2023 13:43:27 GMT -4
If I read it right on the french board Matteo Mann isn't going to end up in CB he's going to Moncton against a 2025 1st that will confirmed after the NHL Draft.
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 8, 2023 13:57:10 GMT -4
If I read it right on the french board Matteo Mann isn't going to end up in CB he's going to Moncton against a 2025 1st that will confirmed after the NHL Draft. good. Glad we arent giving up a 1st for him |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 8, 2023 14:26:31 GMT -4
The 2003-2004 season the Eagles made the boomerang trade with Halifax that ended up failing spectacularly in the playoffs. At the time Greg Lynch opted to not fire Pascal Vincent because of the failure and the organization at least for a short time learned from it's failure that you can't trade your way to a President's Cup. Now here were are on the 20th anniversary season of the boomerang trade with a new majority owner, a new GM and a new Head Coach seemingly about to repeat the same mistakes of the past trying to trade our way to a championship. This organization from a hockey operations side of things has always seemed to refuse to look outside itself to realize where they stand against their competition and what their competitors are doing that allows them to be successful at this level, it's that refusal that has lead them to only two semi-final appearances in twenty-six seasons and now they're refusing to even look at their own history...it's beyond embarrassing. You nailed it. I've been saying that since Paul MacDonald was in charge here. There's an absolute refusal to look at how others are doing it and question why we're always trying to re-invent the wheel here. We're constantly the team getting less in trades while also overpaying to bring players in. Gerard Shaw was commenting on how they had huge plans to cash out on Ryan Francis but covid stopped all that. Because we're going to fantasize for a decade about how that 2020 team would have won even though there's a better chance they were losing in round 2. Right back to Mario Durocher saying Alex Verroneau (https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=124892) was a building block for a Memorial Cup host in 2012 after he gutted it to go for it in 2010. As long as you have no knowledge of the QMJHL our management would have you believe they're just unlucky. But stack up the overall package against ANY other CHL franchise and convince me Cape Breton knows what its doing. When you live in these internal bubbles you need to survive by convincing yourself nobody else has it as hard as you do. Which is why we're constantly looking like we're a team with no direction in a league where some teams have nothing but direction...whether it be upward or downward. So we randomly decide its time to win. Instead of the team on the ice forcing the hand to add pieces to a properly built team which we need to go back to 2002 or 2007 to actually find. |
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Post by sc74 on Jun 8, 2023 15:06:08 GMT -4
The Langlois deal is over. Komarov wasn’t part of it. I think we all agree it's over, that's not to say Sly won't make a move to aquire him. For all we know, there was a handshake deal on this , where Que agreed to a player coming back. At the time you could not predict the RN deal, but you could have included a clause that sends those picks back to QUE for a player. I would say there is less then a 0% chance Cape picks 3 times in the 2nd round Saturday. I don't see Komarov going for less than a 1st pick. |
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Post by falconz on Jun 8, 2023 18:17:40 GMT -4
I would trade a first for Komarov anyday of the week - Adding him will make this D core extremely big and tough to play against next year which is what we lacked last season.
Are we trading for Mann and then flipping him to Moncton? or does it specify?
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Post by JEagle on Jun 8, 2023 18:23:04 GMT -4
I would trade a first for Komarov anyday of the week - Adding him will make this D core extremely big and tough to play against next year which is what we lacked last season. Are we trading for Mann and then flipping him to Moncton? or does it specify? Mann should report a 1st according to the info circulating and it would be in Moncton. Is the google translation of what I read earlier today. I'd post it in french but Proboards has a posts can only be in english rule I believe. |
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