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Post by JEagle on Jun 8, 2023 19:48:22 GMT -4
@cbpost_Jeremy The @qmjhl's second pre-draft trade period will open tomorrow morning for one hour.
As of now, nothing to report from the @cbehockey on the trade front.
#qmjhl #lhjmq #QMJHLDraft
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Post by hal on Jun 8, 2023 20:06:08 GMT -4
One Hour ? ...........Our Guy can make a half a dozen deals in an Hour .
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Post by howitzer on Jun 8, 2023 20:11:55 GMT -4
Only in the Q.
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 8, 2023 21:01:09 GMT -4
Komarov should be one of, if not the top euro D in the league, so if the price isn't too high due to compensation, could likely move him for more to a contender. Rouyn could likely upgrade on Hujer, can't see them going for a championship with him as one of their euros. Bourash is a lock for sure. AND Rouyn needs more top end D besides Langlois and Gill. A) If he's part of the Langlois deal why isn't he here? We made the 2nd part of that trade already. B) If we're buying him today how is it a positive of what we could flip him for in 6 months? The revolving door of constantly moving bodies in and out of here is a huge reason we have the image issue we do. We move some 2nd rounders and essentially move them for a late 1st in 6 months. Give the fan base even more reason to roll their eyes during another Xmas rebuild when there's no huge gain from both moves. Just keep the assets and draft and develop. that's fair, I just wasn't sure on the whole situation whether it was finalized or not. at this point if you's really are buying guys like MacDonald, Komarov (maybe), etc. then it seems a bit backwards of what this team wants to do. Even if they wanted to compete 2 years in a row, I don't think this coming year is the ideal one with the core still being majority young guys. 1 year guys aren't the right adds. Even though the division should arguably be pretty wide open besides Halifax being near the top. But these are the type of deals Couturier makes unfortunately, everyone is a project to him and bought high, and if it didn't work out exactly how he wanted it, he moves them for less and pays big for someone else to come in.. I can't really say much overall though because our vision in Bathurst is unclear as well. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2023 8:22:59 GMT -4
I would trade a first for Komarov anyday of the week - Adding him will make this D core extremely big and tough to play against next year which is what we lacked last season. Are we trading for Mann and then flipping him to Moncton? or does it specify? Really curious as to how you see all this if you think moving 1sts for a likely 1 year Euro D is somehow what this team should be doing. Lets assume Newcombe improves to being a point per game guy...that gives us 2 with he and Squires. The D with Biggar, Schmitt, Lavoie, Daigle returning in key roles doesn't scream championship D core to anyone. Goaltending, statistically, is returning one of the worst goaltenders in the league. How does having a bigger and tougher D mean anything if you still lack goal scoring and have bad goaltending? Who are you trying to beat exactly, the Amherst Ramblers? Or the Halifax Mooseheads returning a 140 point guy. With 2 other ppg+ players. A very solid defense all with league finals experience. And, statistically, one of the leagues top goaltenders. |
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Post by falconz on Jun 9, 2023 8:51:22 GMT -4
I didn't say anything about being a championship core or team. The holes up front are obvious and goaltending has been an issue for years now but if you can add a 19 year old memorial cup champ to a team that needs a push then i understand the logic.
Was just referring to the one player/move chilll
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2023 8:56:25 GMT -4
I didn't say anything about being a championship core or team. The holes up front are obvious and goaltending has been an issue for years now but if you can add a 19 year old memorial cup champ to a team that needs a push then i understand the logic. Was just referring to the one player/move chilll Ok. But in a league like this where you only have a certain amount of draft picks shouldn't you wait to have championship aspirations before you move 1st rounders for 1 year players? How do you ever plan on building a winning core if you're using draft picks like that? Is there some inherit trait this player has that will somehow rub off on everyone else for years to come? Is the player that good that just his presence changes the culture of the organization as a whole? The reason this team is so bad is due to trading so many picks for expiring players in years when they were buying when they shouldn't have been. Are you not just advocating for the same cycle to repeat itself? |
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 9, 2023 9:25:44 GMT -4
I would trade a first for Komarov anyday of the week - Adding him will make this D core extremely big and tough to play against next year which is what we lacked last season. Are we trading for Mann and then flipping him to Moncton? or does it specify? Really curious as to how you see all this if you think moving 1sts for a likely 1 year Euro D is somehow what this team should be doing. Lets assume Newcombe improves to being a point per game guy...that gives us 2 with he and Squires. The D with Biggar, Schmitt, Lavoie, Daigle returning in key roles doesn't scream championship D core to anyone. Goaltending, statistically, is returning one of the worst goaltenders in the league. How does having a bigger and tougher D mean anything if you still lack goal scoring and have bad goaltending? Who are you trying to beat exactly, the Amherst Ramblers? Or the Halifax Mooseheads returning a 140 point guy. With 2 other ppg+ players. A very solid defense all with league finals experience. And, statistically, one of the leagues top goaltenders. this whole thing is joke. Year 3 of a rebuild and we still are nowhere near ready to compete cus they are trying to win through trades instead of through the draft. The organization isnt lead properly by proper hockey minds. The team has been micromanaged from the top since the departure of pascal vincent. Granted i dont recall much before the past couple seasons of his tenure nor did i really pay as much attention to those details as i was fairly young then. But if you look at the average junior team, you need to build through the draft and dont see those avg sized market teams very often competing. The obvious differences are the bigger market and sexy clubs to go to who can attract the top talents. If you cant draft these talents and have them come, trading for them wont make it any better because they still wont want to be here. So the culture has to change and it starts at the top. The owner needs to take a step back and let the people employed do their jobs and stop micro-managing. Yes he has lost money since purchasing the club, ie covid and poor on ice product as far as results. But that doesnt mean do whatever it takes to sell tickets. Build it properly and have sustained ticket sales vs a small uptick in sales for 1 year then back to square one of minimal sales due to another rebuild. |
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 9, 2023 9:31:49 GMT -4
Also, anyone know when the trade period is today?
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2023 9:40:08 GMT -4
Really curious as to how you see all this if you think moving 1sts for a likely 1 year Euro D is somehow what this team should be doing. Lets assume Newcombe improves to being a point per game guy...that gives us 2 with he and Squires. The D with Biggar, Schmitt, Lavoie, Daigle returning in key roles doesn't scream championship D core to anyone. Goaltending, statistically, is returning one of the worst goaltenders in the league. How does having a bigger and tougher D mean anything if you still lack goal scoring and have bad goaltending? Who are you trying to beat exactly, the Amherst Ramblers? Or the Halifax Mooseheads returning a 140 point guy. With 2 other ppg+ players. A very solid defense all with league finals experience. And, statistically, one of the leagues top goaltenders. this whole thing is joke. Year 3 of a rebuild and we still are nowhere near ready to compete cus they are trying to win through trades instead of through the draft. The organization isnt lead properly by proper hockey minds. The team has been micromanaged from the top since the departure of pascal vincent. Granted i dont recall much before the past couple seasons of his tenure nor did i really pay as much attention to those details as i was fairly young then. But if you look at the average junior team, you need to build through the draft and dont see those avg sized market teams very often competing. The obvious differences are the bigger market and sexy clubs to go to who can attract the top talents. If you cant draft these talents and have them come, trading for them wont make it any better because they still wont want to be here. So the culture has to change and it starts at the top. The owner needs to take a step back and let the people employed do their jobs and stop micro-managing. Yes he has lost money since purchasing the club, ie covid and poor on ice product as far as results. But that doesnt mean do whatever it takes to sell tickets. Build it properly and have sustained ticket sales vs a small uptick in sales for 1 year then back to square one of minimal sales due to another rebuild. Peddle decision and the terrible Perron pick burned an entire last place finish. We should currently have 4-5 big pieces after 3 down seasons with a top 10 pick coming now. We have 2-3 and thats being generous and hoping a Shields can bust through at 17 as a consistent scorer. We also traded out of the top 10 for an extra 2nd because we think 8-14 has the same players. If 8-14 is the same caliber...you're saying the top 7 are all better in your eyes. So why is the goal to get further away from that top 7? The last 12 months should have been acquiring players in the 05 and 06 birth years with the other picks used to keep the system deep with kids pushing to make the team. Once that results in a top team that looks championship ready....you sprinkle in some proven vets for picks/kids. |
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Post by classiccaper on Jun 9, 2023 9:52:46 GMT -4
this whole thing is joke. Year 3 of a rebuild and we still are nowhere near ready to compete cus they are trying to win through trades instead of through the draft. The organization isnt lead properly by proper hockey minds. The team has been micromanaged from the top since the departure of pascal vincent. Granted i dont recall much before the past couple seasons of his tenure nor did i really pay as much attention to those details as i was fairly young then. But if you look at the average junior team, you need to build through the draft and dont see those avg sized market teams very often competing. The obvious differences are the bigger market and sexy clubs to go to who can attract the top talents. If you cant draft these talents and have them come, trading for them wont make it any better because they still wont want to be here. So the culture has to change and it starts at the top. The owner needs to take a step back and let the people employed do their jobs and stop micro-managing. Yes he has lost money since purchasing the club, ie covid and poor on ice product as far as results. But that doesnt mean do whatever it takes to sell tickets. Build it properly and have sustained ticket sales vs a small uptick in sales for 1 year then back to square one of minimal sales due to another rebuild. Peddle decision and the terrible Perron pick burned an entire last place finish. We should currently have 4-5 big pieces after 3 down seasons with a top 10 pick coming now. We have 2-3 and thats being generous and hoping a Shields can bust through at 17 as a consistent scorer. We also traded out of the top 10 for an extra 2nd because we think 8-14 has the same players. If 8-14 is the same caliber...you're saying the top 7 are all better in your eyes. So why is the goal to get further away from that top 7? The last 12 months should have been acquiring players in the 05 and 06 birth years with the other picks used to keep the system deep with kids pushing to make the team. Once that results in a top team that looks championship ready....you sprinkle in some proven vets for picks/kids. its been so bad |
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Post by justathought on Jun 9, 2023 10:05:46 GMT -4
I may have missed a press release somewhere but does anyone know if Goyens is coming back as coach yet, one day before the draft?
Also, I'm surprised at the rumored interest in acquiring a prized D man because I thought we were told last spring that the Eagles' returning D core would be one of the best in the league?
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Post by jordo999 on Jun 9, 2023 10:10:19 GMT -4
Also, anyone know when the trade period is today? just opened |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Jun 9, 2023 10:34:31 GMT -4
I may have missed a press release somewhere but does anyone know if Goyens is coming back as coach yet, one day before the draft? Also, I'm surprised at the rumored interest in acquiring a prized D man because I thought we were told last spring that the Eagles' returning D core would be one of the best in the league? There's been silence on that front from what i've seen. The team is actually saying they want scoring to replace Ivan and Johnson. |
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Post by eagle78 on Jun 9, 2023 10:35:55 GMT -4
No press release yet on what Goyens situation is , be nice if they at least send one out if he is back or not back
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