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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on May 15, 2024 16:26:26 GMT -4
Peitzche is a second rounder , he played great in shawi just needed the opportunity to play , Halifax didn’t give him that , I think just the opposite of you I don’t think smiths trade capital is high , more of a third 4th line grinder but he is tough that’s his big asset . Moncton got hosed paying 2 firsts for carrier in a very weak draft year . In the 06 draft year he may be a mid to late 3rd rounder . Anyways just a thought for discussion purposes I respect everyone’s opinion . Congrats as well on landing Gardner he’s a great person and coach . I’d rather have Smith than Peitzche. They’re the same age, but Smith is bigger and more physical. They had practically the same amount of points with Smith playing 15 less games. I don’t see anyway that Smith’s value is lower than Peitzche’s value. Smith is a late bloomer and you don’t see those prototypical power forwards anymore , they are few and far between. I’d hang onto him especially if he doesn’t return a 1st rounder |
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 15, 2024 19:48:13 GMT -4
I’d rather have Smith than Peitzche. They’re the same age, but Smith is bigger and more physical. They had practically the same amount of points with Smith playing 15 less games. I don’t see anyway that Smith’s value is lower than Peitzche’s value. Smith is a late bloomer and you don’t see those prototypical power forwards anymore , they are few and far between. I’d hang onto him especially if he doesn’t return a 1st rounder Agree, plus guys like that are valuable in playoff hockey where things get more mean and physical. |
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Post by riverviewroyal on May 15, 2024 20:39:43 GMT -4
While I trust the MacDougall process and whatever they want to do (mind you some deals were made before they stepped into office), but I think it would be a mistake to trade Smith, he is sorely needed for Playoff hockey. He will score some big goals
As it was said previously it would really sting if Carrier is traded; but I am mentally prepared for it. If he won't factor as a big piece in MacDougall's eyes for this coming season (Our ideally go-for-it year) or if he's an already promised piece in a big trade then I can live with that as long as the haul is good
I stand by my prediction in the pre-season after seeing him play that Carrier would be a 100pt scorer in the Q at age 18 or 19
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Post by davo1997 on May 15, 2024 21:23:54 GMT -4
While I trust the MacDougall process and whatever they want to do (mind you some deals were made before they stepped into office), but I think it would be a mistake to trade Smith, he is sorely needed for Playoff hockey. He will score some big goals As it was said previously it would really sting if Carrier is traded; but I am mentally prepared for it. If he won't factor as a big piece in MacDougall's eyes for this coming season (Our ideally go-for-it year) or if he's an already promised piece in a big trade then I can live with that as long as the haul is good I stand by my prediction in the pre-season after seeing him play that Carrier would be a 100pt scorer in the Q at age 18 or 19 I would say moncton trades both desnoyer and carrier after this season maybe hold carrier cause he will play longer in the q than Desnoyers. the returns will be crazy ur talking a potential 4 1st for both |
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Post by lirette on May 15, 2024 22:48:26 GMT -4
Hearing rumours that shawinigan may move a first , and Peitche wants out , maybe smith and Carrier and a mid round pic for a first and Peitzche . I cant see Collard being moved he had a really goos season this year i can see him putting up 75pts in his 19 year old season. Shawinigan bid on the Mem Cup so they will probably be buyers He had a bad playoffs and end of season but I see next season as a complete reset for most of these players. Collard could have a huge year with Gardiner at the helm I really don't see what interest Moncton would have in Peitzche. He'd be a 4th liner with this forward group. |
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Post by lirette on May 15, 2024 22:52:05 GMT -4
Do we see Miles Mueller return for a fourth season after all ? I don't see where he fits now if Vidicek is coming, unless you move Steinman and get a 19 year old goalie. He is signed under the agency that Macdougall worked for whatever that's worth. |
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Post by lirette on May 15, 2024 22:56:02 GMT -4
Smith is a late bloomer and you don’t see those prototypical power forwards anymore , they are few and far between. I’d hang onto him especially if he doesn’t return a 1st rounder Agree, plus guys like that are valuable in playoff hockey where things get more mean and physical. While they aren't the exact same player, if you look at someone like Milo Roelens who is similar in size, can play up the middle and play physically. He really didn't start producing until his 18 year old season and really his last 2 seasons. I expect similar out of Smith. Smith is far too unique of a player to move him in a contending year and could be worth a lot in a rebuild after his production starts showing. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 16, 2024 10:00:43 GMT -4
Vidicek and Mackinnon incoming That, we already know! Irving said during the press conference this morning that he will "put on a show at draft day" so in addition to the Vidicek/MacKinnon trade we should expect another trade to get a first round draft pick. I'll let you guess the player that will be "sacrificed" for either of those trades... Did you ever think maybe Irving was talking about the draft itself? We know this organization doesn't shy away from throwing a party. I can't see a scenario where the Wildcats end up picking in the 1st round. After the top two guys (Dagenais and Lawrence), there's a drop in talent. Some say it's a weak draft. |
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Post by Briwhel on May 16, 2024 10:01:45 GMT -4
That, we already know! Irving said during the press conference this morning that he will "put on a show at draft day" so in addition to the Vidicek/MacKinnon trade we should expect another trade to get a first round draft pick. I'll let you guess the player that will be "sacrificed" for either of those trades... Did you ever think maybe Irving was talking about the draft itself? We know this organization doesn't shy away from throwing a party. I can't see a scenario where the Wildcats end up picking in the 1st round. After the top two guys (Dagenais and Lawrence), there's a drop in talent. Some say it's a weak draft. I mean, adding Vidicek and MacKinnon kinda is putting on a show. Add another add or two and you'd have a party. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on May 17, 2024 8:48:36 GMT -4
Did you ever think maybe Irving was talking about the draft itself? We know this organization doesn't shy away from throwing a party. I can't see a scenario where the Wildcats end up picking in the 1st round. After the top two guys (Dagenais and Lawrence), there's a drop in talent. Some say it's a weak draft. I mean, adding Vidicek and MacKinnon kinda is putting on a show. Add another add or two and you'd have a party. Not disagreeing with you, but that’s one of the worst kept secrets right now. Mr Irving acknowledged he was aware of the Gardiner rumours. I’m sure he knows people are only waiting for the MacKinnon/Vidicek trade to drop. |
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Post by Briwhel on May 17, 2024 9:16:58 GMT -4
I mean, adding Vidicek and MacKinnon kinda is putting on a show. Add another add or two and you'd have a party. Not disagreeing with you, but that’s one of the worst kept secrets right now. Mr Irving acknowledged he was aware of the Gardiner rumours. I’m sure he knows people are only waiting for the MacKinnon/Vidicek trade to drop. Again, my thought wasn't the "We have these two". My thought was that they could have those done plus one or two other fairly big deals. If Moncton had moves in place for say, Mateiko, and one of the AB guys, then that would be a heck of a haul regardless of whether people know about the first 2 guys. I don't see any universe where Moncton could trade a player for picks and make any argument that they made a splash (given where the team is in the cycle) but if a Carrier went in a Tourigny package, that would be a shot across the bough for the league. |
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Post by joehockey on May 17, 2024 9:17:40 GMT -4
I mean, adding Vidicek and MacKinnon kinda is putting on a show. Add another add or two and you'd have a party. Not disagreeing with you, but that’s one of the worst kept secrets right now. Mr Irving acknowledged he was aware of the Gardiner rumours. I’m sure he knows people are only waiting for the MacKinnon/Vidicek trade to drop. I’m probably be wrong, but I kind of took it to mean that they would do something big in the draft itself. Like them drafting a NCAA guy with their second round pick that they may be able to convince to report because of Taylor’s connections - was his agent for him before getting the Moncton job, for example. |
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Post by davo1997 on May 17, 2024 11:59:34 GMT -4
That, we already know! Irving said during the press conference this morning that he will "put on a show at draft day" so in addition to the Vidicek/MacKinnon trade we should expect another trade to get a first round draft pick. I'll let you guess the player that will be "sacrificed" for either of those trades... Did you ever think maybe Irving was talking about the draft itself? We know this organization doesn't shy away from throwing a party. I can't see a scenario where the Wildcats end up picking in the 1st round. After the top two guys (Dagenais and Lawrence), there's a drop in talent. Some say it's a weak draft. i would hope the plan isnt to draft a guy in the first round and not trade him for assets. this is an all in year and Moncton needs to add more than just Vidicek and mackinnon IMO. This team can go get who they want with the futures they have even after the trade with Halifax is complete. |
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Post by xkarlsson65x on May 17, 2024 12:24:14 GMT -4
32 Thoughts podcast talking about Moncton again, saying had they not gotten the MacDougalls, likely would've gone down the Gerrard Gallant route (assuming no NHL job). Irving was thinking big this off summer.
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Post by galixon on May 17, 2024 13:44:05 GMT -4
32 Thoughts podcast talking about Moncton again, saying had they not gotten the MacDougalls, likely would've gone down the Gerrard Gallant route (assuming no NHL job). Irving was thinking big this off summer. Gallant was the first person they offered the job to, he turned it down. |
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