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Post by Briwhel on Jul 9, 2024 7:38:43 GMT -4
Unless they trade him, I still think that Hackett has to have the leg up for the 6th spot in D over Mullen. Based on the comments, I fully expect Kiviharju to stay in Finland and that Moncton will be trading for another Euro. I think the obvious answer is Mateiko. He’d give Moncton a very strong top 9. Why bother even drafting a guy who won't report?? If theoretically Moncton were to acquire Mateiko right after camp started, they could then declare Kiviharju a no-show. He goes on a special list, Moncton plays the season with 2 imports and they could bring him in next season as a 19. As a smaller D, he should play a season in NA before turning pro to get used to the smaller surfaces, but that might be better at 19 than 18 for him. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 9, 2024 7:53:57 GMT -4
Why bother even drafting a guy who won't report?? Would you prefer they drafted someone that likely doesn’t end up making the team? Pretty sure given the WC resources and having Russians and Belarus players back in, that they could find two players in the draft that would report and could contribute. |
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Post by jimmy on Jul 9, 2024 7:59:51 GMT -4
With our depth, IMO, we have no room for a non-impact euro. So might as well swing for the fence, especially with our second pick - worst case we can play the first half with one euro and go after the best option on the trade market at Xmas ... that might be Mateiko, or it could be someone else who either breaks out in their second season in the league that we are not currently considering, or a newcomer to the league this year. And maybe Kiviharju ends up here at some point even if it currently appears unlikely ...
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Post by Briwhel on Jul 9, 2024 8:16:19 GMT -4
Would you prefer they drafted someone that likely doesn’t end up making the team? Pretty sure given the WC resources and having Russians and Belarus players back in, that they could find two players in the draft that would report and could contribute. From what I can tell, this kid is an absolute stud. He'd be a top 4 this year, but might not be interested in coming. If he came next year, he'd likely be the best D in the league. If Moncton had a deal in place (or was close enough to be comfortable making one), then using the pick for a kid who said next year would make a ton of sense. Keep in mind that the second the Q draft ended, it became impossible to make a deal until August, but for a team like SJ to hold onto Mateiko for an extra week or two for Moncton would be something the two teams could easily have agreed upon if a deal was made after the draft (heck, they could even have made a deal at the draft that wasn't going to be official until then if Moncton was dead-set on two guys). |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jul 9, 2024 9:51:16 GMT -4
Would you prefer they drafted someone that likely doesn’t end up making the team? Pretty sure given the WC resources and having Russians and Belarus players back in, that they could find two players in the draft that would report and could contribute. Unfortunately, Andrei Makarov wasn't available. |
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Post by lirette on Jul 9, 2024 11:11:08 GMT -4
With our depth, IMO, we have no room for a non-impact euro. So might as well swing for the fence, especially with our second pick - worst case we can play the first half with one euro and go after the best option on the trade market at Xmas ... that might be Mateiko, or it could be someone else who either breaks out in their second season in the league that we are not currently considering, or a newcomer to the league this year. And maybe Kiviharju ends up here at some point even if it currently appears unlikely ... I would agree with this, if he doesn't show up we can certainly look back at anyone selected after him and see if they would have made sense, but id rather take a small chance at a home run with that pick than Glas 2.0. with the make up of the team you needed a guy who was going to be a top 6FW or top 4 D guaranteed. No need to piss off agents/contacts picking someone who's going to be upgraded on or cut later in the year. Trading for a euro is usually not as expensive given their limited options. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jul 9, 2024 18:11:01 GMT -4
Robert Lagacé has an article on the Acadie Nouvelle website which talks about some of the roster decisions.
- He mentions Morin, MacKinnon, Johansson, AFG, Grenier, Mullen and Batchilder as those who have a spot on the backend. If Kiviharhu reports, one will likely be dealt or released. He adds guys like Hackett and Dubreuil will need a very strong camp to earn a job.
- Regarding Kiviharju: Taylor MacDougall is still working on it. Chances of him being here are very thin as he's under contract with HIFK.
- Chances of Miles Muller returning to Moncton: Zero
- Any runours of Steinman being traded or released for another goalie can be put to bed. He is the number 1. Confident with Warren as the backup.
- Some Ontario free agents will be added soon
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 9, 2024 19:05:47 GMT -4
Robert Lagacé has an article on the Acadie Nouvelle website which talks about some of the roster decisions. - He mentions Morin, MacKinnon, Johansson, AFG, Grenier, Mullen and Batchilder as those who have a spot on the backend. If Kiviharhu reports, one will likely be dealt or released. He adds guys like Hackett and Dubreuil will need a very strong camp to earn a job. - Regarding Kiviharju: Taylor MacDougall is still working on it. Chances of him being here are very thin as he's under contract with HIFK. - Chances of Miles Muller returning to Moncton: Zero - Any runours of Steinman being traded or released for another goalie can be put to bed. He is the number 1. Confident with Warren as the backup. - Some Ontario free agents will be added soon With what Warren and Steinman have shown so far in the Q, it makes no sense to make a goalie move now, one or both could be a high end #1 Q goalie next year depending on development. No guarantee but the talent is there. |
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Post by jonjon on Jul 9, 2024 23:54:11 GMT -4
So as it stands right now Steinman Warren Morin - Mackinnon Johansson - Grenier AFG - Mullen Loshing - desnoyers - collard Sumpf - Vidicek - Mercier Smith - Lounsbury - Euro Cormier - Sampson - FA Can't imagine Cormier is on this team as a 19. |
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Post by eastcoasthockey on Jul 11, 2024 9:56:08 GMT -4
So if we're playin the lineup game way to early based of not alot of FA names I'd go
Steinman
Warren
Morin - Mackinnon
Johansson - Grenier
AFG - Mullen
Batchilder
Loshing - desnoyers - Vidicek
FA or Maiteko (if traded for) - Sumpf - Mercier
Smith - Lounsbury - Collard
Bremshey-Guillemette - Sampson - FA
Cormier
Couple things, we'll likely stick with the goalies, why give up assets for a keeper when we haven't seen our goalies play behind a good defensive scheme, they start our great in last 2 years but then they get tired of high quality shots over and over..lets hold of til Xmas and see what's there, again if this team is built well, then we don't get great we just need good enough keepers
Anyone else worried Sumpf may not comeback, he's 19, wasn't drafted & could make money in Euro, if he isn't back that is a MASSIVE shot to our Top 9 depth
If they trade for Matieko, would smith be part of the package going back?
Still have Auger that could also bring picks (not high ones) as part to send to SJ
IF Kivi reporst which Dman would you trade for roster spot Grenier or AFG?
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jul 11, 2024 10:58:21 GMT -4
Josh Hepditch is the new associate coach at UNB.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 11, 2024 11:14:50 GMT -4
So if we're playin the lineup game way to early based of not alot of FA names I'd go Steinman Warren Morin - Mackinnon Johansson - Grenier AFG - Mullen Batchilder Loshing - desnoyers - Vidicek FA or Maiteko (if traded for) - Sumpf - Mercier Smith - Lounsbury - Collard Bremshey-Guillemette - Sampson - FA Cormier Couple things, we'll likely stick with the goalies, why give up assets for a keeper when we haven't seen our goalies play behind a good defensive scheme, they start our great in last 2 years but then they get tired of high quality shots over and over..lets hold of til Xmas and see what's there, again if this team is built well, then we don't get great we just need good enough keepers Anyone else worried Sumpf may not comeback, he's 19, wasn't drafted & could make money in Euro, if he isn't back that is a MASSIVE shot to our Top 9 depth If they trade for Matieko, would smith be part of the package going back? Still have Auger that could also bring picks (not high ones) as part to send to SJ IF Kivi reporst which Dman would you trade for roster spot Grenier or AFG? I would have Lounsbury and Collard ahead of Mercier in the lineup. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jul 11, 2024 11:15:50 GMT -4
So as it stands right now Steinman Warren Morin - Mackinnon Johansson - Grenier AFG - Mullen Loshing - desnoyers - collard Sumpf - Vidicek - Mercier Smith - Lounsbury - Euro Cormier - Sampson - FA Can't imagine Cormier is on this team as a 19. On a contender Cormier makes a nice 13th forward to dress vs more physical teams, it lets you leave the rookies in MAAA or Jr.A for more minutes. |
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Post by jimmy on Jul 11, 2024 11:44:11 GMT -4
Can't imagine Cormier is on this team as a 19. On a contender Cormier makes a nice 13th forward to dress vs more physical teams, it lets you leave the rookies in MAAA or Jr.A for more minutes. I could see a scenario where Cormier is a 15-20 goal scorer at 19 if the right opportunity arises ... not saying it is plan A, but as you suggest, his size and hands could make him a useful 13th forward to start the year ... if injuries present an opportunity, he could be a nice depth piece. |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jul 16, 2024 13:25:29 GMT -4
Vincent Collard invited to Montreal’s rookie camp. Also, I’m hearing he could be invited to Hockey Canada’s U20 camp this summer. Confirmed: Vincent Collard will attend Canada’s U20 Summer Showcase Camp. He will be joined by Etienne Morin and Dylan MacKinnon. Desnoyers will attend U18 camp. |
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