Trade

[davo1997]

Nov 18, 2024 22:42:56 GMT -4 berner said:

Nov 17, 2024 11:48:08 GMT -4 jordo999 said:

Lapenna in recent years to Gatineau didn’t even go for a 1st and he was the best goalie on the market at the time

As good as Gravel is, the OA goalie market is very tough in terms of getting great assets in return. Theres also Rousseau, who I’m sure would be contenders 1st choice if going for an OA goalie and even he may not fetch a 1st

I also think Rimouski is fine with St-Hilaire and Lacelle as a tandem. But if they do upgrade they probably grab Rousseau. Rimouski also still needs depth elsewhere and will likely use their futures to do so.

St Hilaire and Lacelle as a goaltending tandem when you’re hosting the Memorial Cup? No way Rimouski does that.

I think Lacelle is moved for sure he has good value and i just dont see him being ready to backup a mem cup team. 

Mateiko- Rimouski
Tivey- Stays
Peddle- CB yes even though they arent very good i think Sly will add
Gravel- Stays, if he goes rimouski 
Mann- Stays
Bilodeau- BLB, I think we see a few sneaky adds from them. 

[WHEELsnipePARTY]

Nov 19, 2024 7:10:09 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

Nov 18, 2024 22:42:56 GMT -4 berner said:

St Hilaire and Lacelle as a goaltending tandem when you’re hosting the Memorial Cup? No way Rimouski does that.

I think Lacelle is moved for sure he has good value and i just dont see him being ready to backup a mem cup team. 

Mateiko- Rimouski
Tivey- Stays
Peddle- CB yes even though they arent very good i think Sly will add
Gravel- Stays, if he goes rimouski 
Mann- Stays
Bilodeau- BLB, I think we see a few sneaky adds from them. 

I don’t see Lacelle being moved when he was leaning ncaa at first

[davo1997]

Nov 19, 2024 10:13:36 GMT -4 WHEELsnipePARTY said:

Nov 19, 2024 7:10:09 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

I think Lacelle is moved for sure he has good value and i just dont see him being ready to backup a mem cup team. 

Mateiko- Rimouski
Tivey- Stays
Peddle- CB yes even though they arent very good i think Sly will add
Gravel- Stays, if he goes rimouski 
Mann- Stays
Bilodeau- BLB, I think we see a few sneaky adds from them. 

I don’t see Lacelle being moved when he was leaning ncaa at first

perhaps but hes young for the mem cup especially if quinton miller is back in time i cant see them not running Miller and Rousseau or Gravel if they have the chance plus Lacelle could be a decent peice in a mateiko type trade.

[Jack Bauer]

Nov 19, 2024 10:29:11 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

Nov 19, 2024 10:13:36 GMT -4 WHEELsnipePARTY said:

I don’t see Lacelle being moved when he was leaning ncaa at first

perhaps but hes young for the mem cup especially if quinton miller is back in time i cant see them not running Miller and Rousseau or Gravel if they have the chance plus Lacelle could be a decent peice in a mateiko type trade.

You think the Memorial Cup host is going to use an overage slot on a backup goaltender?

[davo1997]

Nov 19, 2024 10:33:08 GMT -4 Jack Bauer said:

Nov 19, 2024 10:29:11 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

perhaps but hes young for the mem cup especially if quinton miller is back in time i cant see them not running Miller and Rousseau or Gravel if they have the chance plus Lacelle could be a decent peice in a mateiko type trade.

You think the Memorial Cup host is going to use an overage slot on a backup goaltender?

Miller being 20 went over my head i looked him up and said he was 19 my bad there. To answer your question absolutley not.

[Briwhel]

Nov 19, 2024 10:44:02 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

Nov 19, 2024 10:33:08 GMT -4 Jack Bauer said:

You think the Memorial Cup host is going to use an overage slot on a backup goaltender?

Miller being 20 went over my head i looked him up and said he was 19 my bad there. To answer your question absolutley not.

FWIW, Miller may or may not be ready to play again in nets and Rimouski is allowed to have 4 20s if he is hurt when the roster limit takes effect (but they would run into a mess if they needed to actually dress him). At this point, it might be a better idea to plan on not having him given that he's expected to be out until March at the earliest.

[jordo999]

Nov 18, 2024 22:42:56 GMT -4 berner said:

Nov 17, 2024 11:48:08 GMT -4 jordo999 said:

Lapenna in recent years to Gatineau didn’t even go for a 1st and he was the best goalie on the market at the time

As good as Gravel is, the OA goalie market is very tough in terms of getting great assets in return. Theres also Rousseau, who I’m sure would be contenders 1st choice if going for an OA goalie and even he may not fetch a 1st

I also think Rimouski is fine with St-Hilaire and Lacelle as a tandem. But if they do upgrade they probably grab Rousseau. Rimouski also still needs depth elsewhere and will likely use their futures to do so.

St Hilaire and Lacelle as a goaltending tandem when you’re hosting the Memorial Cup? No way Rimouski does that.

I think it still hinges on when and if Miller will be back. St-Hilaire's stats haven't been the best but he's been better as of late. I think they still grab Rousseau though if that's the case. But I wouldn't underestimate Lacelle, yes he's young but he's a former 10th overall pick and his stats speak for themselves. 

[jordo999]

Nov 19, 2024 10:13:36 GMT -4 WHEELsnipePARTY said:

Nov 19, 2024 7:10:09 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

I think Lacelle is moved for sure he has good value and i just dont see him being ready to backup a mem cup team. 

Mateiko- Rimouski
Tivey- Stays
Peddle- CB yes even though they arent very good i think Sly will add
Gravel- Stays, if he goes rimouski 
Mann- Stays
Bilodeau- BLB, I think we see a few sneaky adds from them. 

I don’t see Lacelle being moved when he was leaning ncaa at first

this is another factor, Lacelle only wanted to go to Rimouski. I doubt he's moved even as a future. 

[davo1997]

Nov 19, 2024 10:48:59 GMT -4 Briwhel said:

Nov 19, 2024 10:44:02 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

Miller being 20 went over my head i looked him up and said he was 19 my bad there. To answer your question absolutley not.

FWIW, Miller may or may not be ready to play again in nets and Rimouski is allowed to have 4 20s if he is hurt when the roster limit takes effect (but they would run into a mess if they needed to actually dress him). At this point, it might be a better idea to plan on not having him given that he's expected to be out until March at the earliest.

For sure. With miller being 20 i wouldnt bank on him being the guy at all coming off of a serious injury i firgured if he was 19 and he did bounce back it could be really good for Rimouski. 

[Briwhel]

Nov 19, 2024 10:51:28 GMT -4 davo1997 said:

Nov 19, 2024 10:48:59 GMT -4 Briwhel said:

FWIW, Miller may or may not be ready to play again in nets and Rimouski is allowed to have 4 20s if he is hurt when the roster limit takes effect (but they would run into a mess if they needed to actually dress him). At this point, it might be a better idea to plan on not having him given that he's expected to be out until March at the earliest.

For sure. With miller being 20 i wouldnt bank on him being the guy at all coming off of a serious injury i firgured if he was 19 and he did bounce back it could be really good for Rimouski. 

That's also the exact scenario that SJ ran into with Patenaude in 2022 (where his return was March). They had to go grab a replacement with the expectation that Patenaude wouldn't be back in form in time to play again.

[Briwhel]

I see Mateiko and Tivey being moved either way (because they should have very good value).

The rest depend on what people are willing to pay and what else is available.

Peddle is one of the better non-OA forwards available and is a potential 1.5 year guy (Lavigne and Larose are the only similar or better non-OA forwards I see that would be available).

Bilodeau could be one of the better non-OA D available (but this one hinges heavily on Bathurst not selling, because Perron/Clements would jump in above him in the market).

Gravel could be available, but there are only a couple of teams that could use an OA goalie (Rimouski, BLB, possibly RN) with only Riki being a potential motivated buyer.

Barring something crazy, I don't see a team offering anything for Mann that we would want.

SJ cannot sell off too much, so some backfill would have to be acquired.

Also, on the tinkering side, I could see guys the entire depth portion being potentially available (I think SJ could replace 1 FW internally from this group, but I wouldn't be comfortable replacing any of our D internally unless we are signing FA)

[JEagle]

Not sure if this is new news or not but according to this Labbé has asked to be traded.

[Briwhel]

Nov 19, 2024 12:34:21 GMT -4 JEagle said:

Not sure if this is new news or not but according to this Labbé has asked to be traded.

It is new, but not completely unexpected.

Labbe wants to play in the Q, but likely prefers to play in Quebec.

[puckstopper]

I don’t like the idea of giving a guy a trade when they demand one on the other hand if he feels he does not want to be here because Robinson is ahead of him maybe the team can some something. As for D if you take away one D we don’t have someone to step into our top 6 in my opinion.

[SjRinkSideRebel]

Proposed trade Scenario: Seadogs / Oceanic

Straight trade one for one (Gravel for Pare)

Why This Trade Makes Sense for Rimouski (Buyer):

Immediate Need for a Goalie:
Rimouski has aspirations to compete this season but lacks a top-tier, experienced goalie. Gravel (20 years old) brings consistency, a strong track record, and playoff experience with a 2.60 GAA and 0.918 save percentage. He can stabilize Rimouski's back end and give them a better chance to contend.

Depth on Defense:
Rimouski’s defensive depth is strong, with players like Spencer Gill, and others contributing this season. Trading one key defenseman (Paré) is manageable if it significantly upgrades their goaltending. (currently carrying 8 defense)

Keeping Core Intact:
While Paré is valuable, Rimouski retains their top defensive contributors like Gill and their high-scoring forwards. They won’t sacrifice too much of their current roster strength.


Why This Trade Makes Sense for Saint John (Seller):

Building for the Future:
Saint John is focused on a 2026–27 Memorial Cup run. Acquiring Anthony Paré (18 years old) aligns perfectly with this timeline. He’s a productive defenseman (10 points in 18 games, +11) with offensive upside and room to grow. His age makes him a cornerstone piece for their rebuild.

Replacing Gravel in Net:
While trading Gravel removes their starting goalie, Saint John isn’t prioritizing immediate results. They can rely on Justin Robinson (#30) or use the trade deadline to find a short-term solution.

Long-Term Value:
Gravel is aging out of the league after this season, so trading him now maximizes his value. Paré will remain in the league until at least the 2026–27 season, providing long-term returns.

Trade Balance:
Rimouski Gains: A top goalie to solidify their playoff push, addressing their biggest weakness.
Saint John Gains: A high-potential, young defenseman

Potential Risks:

For Rimouski:
Losing Paré could hurt their defensive depth, but they can lean on Gill, and others to fill the gap.

For Saint John:
Trading Gravel leaves them vulnerable in net for the remainder of the season, but their long-term plan mitigates this.

Verdict:
This trade makes sense because it aligns with both teams' strategies:

Rimouski: Upgrades their goaltending without sacrificing too much of their current roster.
Saint John: Adds a long-term defensive asset and future draft capital to support their rebuild.


Just a trade I see as being an upside, not sure if they could add a draft pick in there as well. Let me know what you guys think.