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Post by lou on Sept 12, 2007 10:37:52 GMT -4
Well, if you think Hodge is a bit biased towards the Cats, you should have listened to CBC radio this morning and their guest "sports guy" or whatever. It was that Surette guy. Remember the guy with the huge eyebrows doing the Cats games on Rogers? He is a Cats fan, no doubt by listening to the Rogers broadcasts back when...so maybe this is where this hatred of the Titan blurs his vision...
Among his "predictions" for this season, Acadie-Bathurst fighting for a playoff spot with the Cape Breton Screaming Eagles.
Hey, I don't think we are a contender. We're a few moves away from that in the best case scenario. But fighting for a playoff spot?? Do they just let anyone on the radio?? I just laughed it off, no biggie, but CBC may want to look deeper into the qualifications of their guests. Hodge is with Irving. We all know about that. But CBC??
Among Mr Surette's other comments:
-Bathurst loses 50 to 60 goals by losing Bartos (wonder if he'd have predicted 60 goals if Bartos was actually here?? My guess, he'd have predicted 25-30 hehe)
-Sniderman to be moved to a contender for a very nice return (poossibly to Halifax)
-Lewiston team to beat if Perron and Bernier come back
-Moncton and both SJ teams fighting for 4th in the division (Lew, Hali and PEI he predicts 1, 2 and 3)
-Pianosi and Barberio as one of the better 1-2 Defense in the division (or was that the Q...I was still busy laughing about the Titan prediction and missed that part...)
Thinking back now, maybe I was actually listening to "Madly off in all directions" rather than "Information Morning" ;D
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Sept 12, 2007 10:47:58 GMT -4
I dont get it, whats so unreasonable?  |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 12, 2007 10:49:48 GMT -4
hodge is usually biased in his articles...not as much in his predictions, he actually has a great track record for predictions...which he nauseatingly reminds readers of.
Those are pretty ridiculous comments though, I agree...considering...
Bartos might have scored 40, maybe 45 tops, his loss costs you about 25 goals in the "big picture" with other players all moving up by one line.
Pianosi and Barberio will be average to slightly above average d-men this year(Barberio should be a top guy at 18 and 19).
Bathurst even without Bartos is a better than .500 team barring a rash of injuries.
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Post by Bev on Sept 12, 2007 11:03:06 GMT -4
He must have Perry making the Caps.
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Post by canuck on Sept 12, 2007 11:10:26 GMT -4
hodge is usually biased in his articles...not as much in his predictions, he actually has a great track record for predictions... Hodge's prediction from this week's Hockey News: 1- Halifax 2- PEI 3- RN 4- Moncton  5- Lewiston 6- Rimouski 7- Bathurst 8- Victoriaville 9- Gatineau 10- St John 11- Quebec 12- St John's 13- Chicoutimi 14- Baie Comeau 15- Cape Breton 16- Drummondville 17- Shawinigan 18- Val d'Or |
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Post by bois on Sept 12, 2007 11:25:47 GMT -4
hodge is usually biased in his articles...not as much in his predictions, he actually has a great track record for predictions...which he nauseatingly reminds readers of. Your last name wouldn't happen to be Hodge would it? |
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Post by chsb on Sept 12, 2007 11:31:22 GMT -4
Bartos might have scored 40, maybe 45 tops, his loss costs you about 25 goals in the "big picture" with other players all moving up by one line. Pianosi and Barberio will be average to slightly above average d-men this year(Barberio should be a top guy at 18 and 19). Bathurst even without Bartos is a better than .500 team barring a rash of injuries. Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... |
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Post by lou on Sept 12, 2007 12:02:18 GMT -4
Bartos might have scored 40, maybe 45 tops, his loss costs you about 25 goals in the "big picture" with other players all moving up by one line. Pianosi and Barberio will be average to slightly above average d-men this year(Barberio should be a top guy at 18 and 19). Bathurst even without Bartos is a better than .500 team barring a rash of injuries. Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... Surette was out to lunch on a lot of comments, but I don't necessarily fault him. They could have had chsb as a guest for this...that would have been entertaining too... I fault the CBC for putting this piece on there with the big intro something like "And now for a look at what the Q will look like this year" type thing. At the least if they'd introduce it the same as they do a phone in for anyone's opinion on the mating habits of japanese whales or something ;D ;D |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Sept 12, 2007 12:47:14 GMT -4
Bartos might have scored 40, maybe 45 tops, his loss costs you about 25 goals in the "big picture" with other players all moving up by one line. Pianosi and Barberio will be average to slightly above average d-men this year(Barberio should be a top guy at 18 and 19). Bathurst even without Bartos is a better than .500 team barring a rash of injuries. Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... are you serious?  Were you not one of the people arguing with me that Bartos played a lot on the 2nd line and not much of his success was due to Perreault and Beauregard? Did you not also point out that Bartos was a big cog in your offense the second half, even going so far as to say he was your best player? The 25 goals lost were not all HIS goals, they were 25 goals generated. Both by scoring and playmaking. I think that's a resaonable assessment of what he means to your offense. Had you lost Perreault, that's a 45-50 goal loss on your offense. Yes, he benefitted from excellent linemates, especially on the PP, but he is still a player that's clearly above average...you don't replace him simply by moving Faille from 3rd line to the top 2. You had him pegged for 100 points and now his loss is nothing...PRICELESS!!!!!!!! |
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Post by habh8er on Sept 12, 2007 12:52:45 GMT -4
Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... are you serious? Were you not one of the people arguing with me that Bartos played a lot on the 2nd line and not much of his success was due to Perreault and Beauregard? Did you not also point out that Bartos was a big cog in your offense the second half, even going so far as to say he was your best player? The 25 goals lost were not all HIS goals, they were 25 goals generated. Both by scoring and playmaking. I think that's a resaonable assessment of what he means to your offense. Had you lost Perreault, that's a 45-50 goal loss on your offense. Yes, he benefitted from excellent linemates, especially on the PP, but he is still a player that's clearly above average...you don't replace him simply by moving Faille from 3rd line to the top 2. You had him pegged for 100 points and now his loss is nothing...PRICELESS!!!!!!!! You sound surprised....also...priceless!! |
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Post by mikeb on Sept 12, 2007 12:56:50 GMT -4
Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... are you serious? Were you not one of the people arguing with me that Bartos played a lot on the 2nd line and not much of his success was due to Perreault and Beauregard? Did you not also point out that Bartos was a big cog in your offense the second half, even going so far as to say he was your best player? The 25 goals lost were not all HIS goals, they were 25 goals generated. Both by scoring and playmaking. I think that's a resaonable assessment of what he means to your offense. Had you lost Perreault, that's a 45-50 goal loss on your offense. Yes, he benefitted from excellent linemates, especially on the PP, but he is still a player that's clearly above average...you don't replace him simply by moving Faille from 3rd line to the top 2. You had him pegged for 100 points and now his loss is nothing...PRICELESS!!!!!!!! He doesn't wear a Titan sweater anymore. Of course he's not as good as he was before. |
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Post by 13th tribe on Sept 12, 2007 12:59:56 GMT -4
Bartos might have scored 40, maybe 45 tops, his loss costs you about 25 goals in the "big picture" with other players all moving up by one line. Pianosi and Barberio will be average to slightly above average d-men this year(Barberio should be a top guy at 18 and 19). Bathurst even without Bartos is a better than .500 team barring a rash of injuries. Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... Just a thought... If Masse scores 26 golas to replace Bartos' total from last year...then who replaces Masse's total from last year? |
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Post by chsb on Sept 12, 2007 13:07:53 GMT -4
Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... are you serious? Were you not one of the people arguing with me that Bartos played a lot on the 2nd line and not much of his success was due to Perreault and Beauregard? Did you not also point out that Bartos was a big cog in your offense the second half, even going so far as to say he was your best player? The 25 goals lost were not all HIS goals, they were 25 goals generated. Both by scoring and playmaking. I think that's a resaonable assessment of what he means to your offense. Had you lost Perreault, that's a 45-50 goal loss on your offense. Yes, he benefitted from excellent linemates, especially on the PP, but he is still a player that's clearly above average...you don't replace him simply by moving Faille from 3rd line to the top 2. You had him pegged for 100 points and now his loss is nothing...PRICELESS!!!!!!!! Of the 100 points I was predicitng Bartos to have, I always predicted 30-35 goals.... If you know otherwise, please show your sources. Bartos is more a playmaker than a goal scorer...and it showed multiple times last season....he could have buried easily 40 goals + if he had been a sniper. |
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Post by Krang7 on Sept 12, 2007 13:11:26 GMT -4
are you serious? Were you not one of the people arguing with me that Bartos played a lot on the 2nd line and not much of his success was due to Perreault and Beauregard? Did you not also point out that Bartos was a big cog in your offense the second half, even going so far as to say he was your best player? The 25 goals lost were not all HIS goals, they were 25 goals generated. Both by scoring and playmaking. I think that's a resaonable assessment of what he means to your offense. Had you lost Perreault, that's a 45-50 goal loss on your offense. Yes, he benefitted from excellent linemates, especially on the PP, but he is still a player that's clearly above average...you don't replace him simply by moving Faille from 3rd line to the top 2. You had him pegged for 100 points and now his loss is nothing...PRICELESS!!!!!!!! Of the 100 points I was predicitng Bartos to have, I always predicted 30-35 goals.... If you know otherwise, please show your sources. Bartos is more a playmaker than a goal scorer...and it showed multiple times last season....he could have buried easily 40 goals + if he had been a sniper. Don't you think though, given that prediction, that losing his 65-70 assists along with his 30-35 goals is going to significantly affect your offence? I don't think the 25 less total goals by the Titan that billy is predicting is a stretch at all. |
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Post by chsb on Sept 12, 2007 13:11:27 GMT -4
Actually last season, Bartos scored 24 goals playing all season aside Perreault, 17 of these goals on PP where he played all season with Perreault. I fail to see how you could predict 40 goals to him this season in the same conditions....I was at the most projecting 30-35 goals in all my predictions. Massé, on the other hand,scored 26 goals playing 2nd line, of which only 7 were scored on PP. Messier, on the other hand, scored 27 goals in BC playing 3rd line. These two players qualify as well or better to replace Bartos in the goal scoring department on the first line. The only difference on the team, as I indicated before, will be on the 3rd liner taking any of these two spot on the 2nd line. Therefore I fail to see where there would be a 25 goals differential loss in goals scored without Bartos....at most 10-15 and maybe no difference at all if others do step up as expected.... My expectations for the Titan have not changed much following the Bartos news and I know for a fact that I know much better the team than Surrette... Just a thought... If Masse scores 26 golas to replace Bartos' total from last year...then who replaces Masse's total from last year? Don't you think that one of Joly/Mailloux/Faille/Grenache can at least score 20 goals while playing 2nd line? Joly scored 15 goals playing 3rd line last season and Mailloux 17 playing 3rd line. As i wrote already, no doubt that Massé or Messier can come up with Bartos' goal scoring on the first line and the real concern if about who will step up on the 2nd line. Even so I am not too concerned knowing that one of the 4 mentioned above can score 20 goals+ on the 2nd line...... |
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