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Post by juliansteed on Oct 8, 2007 22:52:08 GMT -4
You said yourself that you weren't there and dont know what happened yet you continue to criticize people's behaviour based on assumptions you are making? WTF? ?? And what does this have to do with the pot and the kettle. The guy who was criticizing the players behaviour was NOT one of the hecklers. So how is he a hypocrite? And even if he was one of the hecklers, there is a world of difference between heckling and assaulting a young child with a weapon. Clearly logic is not one of your strengths. juliansteed, I gotta admit you lost me on that. Who did I criticize exactly, that got you all hot and bothered? Just let me know and I'll forward the apology, but you're making no sense to me. And I assume when you talk about 'the guy criticizing the players behaviour' you mean Canucklehead. But maybe I shouldn't be assuming anything with you. I never called Canucklehead a hypocrite, again you got confused. I'll try and explain it in a different way: Canucklehead made a sarcastic comment about the incident being 'classy stuff' from the Remparts. What I was saying in response is that one could also make a sarcastic comment about the post-game hecklers being 'classy'. Make sense to you yet? If not, PM me and I'll do my best to help. You were criticizing the hecklers but you don't even know what was said. And you did indeed make 2 blatant implications that Canucklehead was being a hypocrite. I can't believe you are trying to argue otherwise. This was included in the post where you quoted him: "when I hear that teenage hockey players reacted poorly to hecklers and as such have no class, it's so hypocritical it's sickening." And this in another post where you quoted him: "And my biggest issue with your comment was the joke about being classy, in discussing a teenage hockey players reaction to some heckling from someone likely twice his age. Ever hear the expression about the pot and the kettle?" My point is that he initially never even commented on the hecklers one way or another, and why should he have? They are at every game and that is not the point of this thread. And since he doesn't appear to be one of the hecklers himself how is he a hypocrite for calling the players unclassy?
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leahb
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Post by leahb on Oct 9, 2007 1:01:38 GMT -4
I still want to see this happen live.
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Post by berner on Oct 9, 2007 5:17:50 GMT -4
juliansteed, I gotta admit you lost me on that. Who did I criticize exactly, that got you all hot and bothered? Just let me know and I'll forward the apology, but you're making no sense to me. And I assume when you talk about 'the guy criticizing the players behaviour' you mean Canucklehead. But maybe I shouldn't be assuming anything with you. I never called Canucklehead a hypocrite, again you got confused. I'll try and explain it in a different way: Canucklehead made a sarcastic comment about the incident being 'classy stuff' from the Remparts. What I was saying in response is that one could also make a sarcastic comment about the post-game hecklers being 'classy'. Make sense to you yet? If not, PM me and I'll do my best to help. You were criticizing the hecklers but you don't even know what was said. And you did indeed make 2 blatant implications that Canucklehead was being a hypocrite. I can't believe you are trying to argue otherwise. This was included in the post where you quoted him: "when I hear that teenage hockey players reacted poorly to hecklers and as such have no class, it's so hypocritical it's sickening." And this in another post where you quoted him: "And my biggest issue with your comment was the joke about being classy, in discussing a teenage hockey players reaction to some heckling from someone likely twice his age. Ever hear the expression about the pot and the kettle?" My point is that he initially never even commented on the hecklers one way or another, and why should he have? They are at every game and that is not the point of this thread. And since he doesn't appear to be one of the hecklers himself how is he a hypocrite for calling the players unclassy? Hahaha, wow... sorry julian if you feel there were two blatant implications about poor Canucklehead - as I tried before I'll set the record straight - as he wasn't involved in any post-game verbal exchange, I didn't call him anything, nor was anything intentionally implied. Good enough for ya? Down, boy, down! ;D
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Post by catnut on Oct 9, 2007 10:31:18 GMT -4
I still want to see this happen live. As long as it doesn't turn into this: or this There was a similar incident in the Q (Rouyn-Noranda) a few years back but could not find footage.
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Post by juliansteed on Oct 9, 2007 12:17:29 GMT -4
You were criticizing the hecklers but you don't even know what was said. And you did indeed make 2 blatant implications that Canucklehead was being a hypocrite. I can't believe you are trying to argue otherwise. This was included in the post where you quoted him: "when I hear that teenage hockey players reacted poorly to hecklers and as such have no class, it's so hypocritical it's sickening." And this in another post where you quoted him: "And my biggest issue with your comment was the joke about being classy, in discussing a teenage hockey players reaction to some heckling from someone likely twice his age. Ever hear the expression about the pot and the kettle?" My point is that he initially never even commented on the hecklers one way or another, and why should he have? They are at every game and that is not the point of this thread. And since he doesn't appear to be one of the hecklers himself how is he a hypocrite for calling the players unclassy? Hahaha, wow... sorry julian if you feel there were two blatant implications about poor Canucklehead - as I tried before I'll set the record straight - as he wasn't involved in any post-game verbal exchange, I didn't call him anything, nor was anything intentionally implied. Good enough for ya? Down, boy, down! ;D Ummm ok then who exactly were you calling a hypocrite? Its quite apparent that you realize your mistake and now you are back peddling instead of just admitting you were wrong. You used the word hypocracy and made reference to the pot and kettle expression in posts that were directed to Canucklehead. If these weren't directed towards him I'm very curious to find out to whom they were directed.
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Post by archer on Oct 9, 2007 15:25:11 GMT -4
This is Patrick Roy the league will probably fine us for this somehow.
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Post by berner on Oct 9, 2007 17:09:49 GMT -4
Hahaha, wow... sorry julian if you feel there were two blatant implications about poor Canucklehead - as I tried before I'll set the record straight - as he wasn't involved in any post-game verbal exchange, I didn't call him anything, nor was anything intentionally implied. Good enough for ya? Down, boy, down! ;D Ummm ok then who exactly were you calling a hypocrite? Its quite apparent that you realize your mistake and now you are back peddling instead of just admitting you were wrong. You used the word hypocracy and made reference to the pot and kettle expression in posts that were directed to Canucklehead. If these weren't directed towards him I'm very curious to find out to whom they were directed. Oh julian, you got nothing better to do than beat a dead horse... fine, I'll pm you later and maybe you can finally rest easy. The degree to which this thread has gone is foolish, and I realize I'm partly to blame by responding to you. Funny thing is that the poster you feel like you're defending either doesn't care or understands my posts much easier than you do. Last two things I'll mention in this thread though are (1) I'm quite happy to admit when I'm wrong on something, everyone has times when they are wrong or change their view on an issue; (2) don't worry, if I want to call you a name you won't have to read between the lines for what may be implied, it'll be there for you and all the world to see in no uncertain terms. ;D
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Post by juliansteed on Oct 9, 2007 17:41:57 GMT -4
Well apparently that makes 2 of us beating a dead horse. My intent wasn't so much to stick up for someone as he seems quite capable of fighting his own battles. I was just commenting on the lack of logic to your arguments, to which you have yet to prove me wrong. Tell me who you were calling a hypocrite and explain how this person (or people) were hypocrites and I'll admit you were right and I was wrong. Until then I'm done with this thread.
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Post by bois on Oct 10, 2007 10:45:42 GMT -4
I can't believe if a kid was hit with a hockey stick by a player this wouldn't have made news somewhere other than on a SeaDog message board.. is it possible this alleged incident didn't occur at all or was greatly blown out of proportion initially?
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Post by canucklehead on Oct 10, 2007 10:46:58 GMT -4
I can't believe if a kid was hit with a hockey stick by a player this wouldn't have made news somewhere other than on a SeaDog message board.. is it possible this alleged incident didn't occur at all or was greatly blown out of proportion initially? Oh it happened Bois lots of people seen it happen but looks like he got away with it
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Post by reddogbluedog on Oct 10, 2007 11:00:30 GMT -4
From what I see on this thread besides a couple of guys acting like middle school girls there is no proof of anything. You are telling us that in this day and age something like this is not going to be front page?? Where are the parents and why are they not charging this guy? I am with bois on this one I think something is wrong or this would have gone a lot further than this. Just the fact the it was Roy's team and a goalie swung a stick at a kid would probably get TSN time.
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Post by canucklehead on Oct 10, 2007 11:07:03 GMT -4
From what I see on this thread besides a couple of guys acting like middle school girls there is no proof of anything. You are telling us that in this day and age something like this is not going to be front page?? Where are the parents and why are they not charging this guy? I am with bois on this one I think something is wrong or this would have gone a lot further than this. Just the fact the it was Roy's team and a goalie swung a stick at a kid would probably get TSN time. Gimmie a break! He hit the kid with the stick it happened. Does it mean he busted the kid open no but does it have to split him open to make it wrong? Hell No!!!
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Post by arrk on Oct 10, 2007 11:22:25 GMT -4
so nothing is going to be done about this at all? if it's okay for the players to be hittin people with sticks thats gonna be a little problem.
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Post by habh8er on Oct 10, 2007 11:51:04 GMT -4
Guess what guys.....this isn't the first or only time this has happened this year. During the home opener the same thing happened, but not by a goaltender it was done by one of the players from the Screaming Eagles...to my Son.
We were at the game with his Ball team, sitting in the lower bowl in section N (the section next to where the visitors tunnel exits the stadium) and the kids were standing there when the players entered and exited the ice, looking for high fives. This went on entering and exiting for the first two periods...some players high fived the kids some didn't. As things went the Dogs were handed their butts, and the kids started to (instead of high fiving the eagles players who were walking out at the end of our row to their room) put up the "L" sign to indicate losers....well apparently one of the Capers didn't appreciate the gesture and lifted his stick over his head and slapped the Kids hands with the toe of his blade.
Does this call for a suspension, a lawsuit, does it make the parents of these 12-15 Kids "bad parents"...my opinion is no, nobody was hurt...they could have been, but weren't. If anything I would hope that Harbour Station would learn from these situations and put security at the tunnels of both teams. But to say people are bad parents for having a small child assaulted by an opposition teams player is stupid to say the least. Aren't these players supposed to be guided and taught by their coaching staff. These people have to see that their teams act appropriately when at the hotel, rink, restaurant and wherever else they go. If coaches are turning a blind eye to these sort of things, they are the ones who deserve to be reprimanded. The kids in the stands and on the benches are just that...Kids!
By the way when my son complained to me about it I told him to keep his fingers (all five) in his pockets, and this will not happen again!!
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Post by elementz on Oct 10, 2007 12:25:16 GMT -4
Nothing will come out of anything unless reported with substantiated proof.
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