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Post by Judas In My Mind on Oct 6, 2007 22:11:42 GMT -4
About what? How about this (which I can't believe isn't posted yet that I see). The Remparts Goalie, Desfosses, swung his stick at some hecklers on the way out tonight...and hit a young kid instead! I expect a long suspension for him.
Also more than one Rempart from what I heard, but definitely Poulin at least, gave some fans the finger.
Guess they think they are their coach, and Saint John is Chicoutimi.
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Post by chillywack on Oct 6, 2007 22:12:39 GMT -4
Oh, just about every single member flipped the crowd off on their way out. The trainer stood by the bench and challenged them to fight, and the flipped them off too.
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Post by usernameisback on Oct 6, 2007 22:13:02 GMT -4
the goalie probly wont even get a slap on the wrist
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Post by hockeyaddict on Oct 6, 2007 22:14:22 GMT -4
They're lucky my son wasn't there or I'd be raising hell!
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Post by major on Oct 6, 2007 22:17:42 GMT -4
About what? How about this (which I can't believe isn't posted yet that I see). The Remparts Goalie, Desfosses, swung his stick at some hecklers on the way out tonight...and hit a young kid instead! I expect a long suspension for him. Also more than one Rempart from what I heard, but definitely Poulin at least, gave some fans the finger. Guess they think they are their coach, and Saint John is Chicoutimi. I was a pretty nasty situation to say the least!!!
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Post by canucklehead on Oct 6, 2007 23:08:09 GMT -4
I guess when you play the mighty Patrick Roy these are some of the things your taught! Classy stuff but not surprised with the ways things are they do have Patrick Roy as a coach!
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Post by berner on Oct 7, 2007 1:05:46 GMT -4
I guess when you play the mighty Patrick Roy these are some of the things your taught! Classy stuff but not surprised with the ways things are they do have Patrick Roy as a coach! I'm not defending whatever happened, as I wasn't even there to see what you're talking about... but when I hear that teenage hockey players reacted poorly to hecklers and as such have no class, it's so hypocritical it's sickening. Is it the players that have no class or is it the hecklers (who are often much older than the kids playing)? What kind of double standard is that? And oh yes, the kids in the stands who have to witness this atrocity... maybe you should think twice about that. Should the kids in the stands have to witness adults trash-talking teenagers on their way off the ice after a hockey game?
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Post by ashtrayfoot on Oct 7, 2007 6:12:10 GMT -4
By the way does anyone no if quebec travel with their own security, i was going to my car and noticed that the ramparts bus was baracaded off again just like it was last year and surrounded by security so i said this is kind of ridiculous to the security watching the bus when the biggest security guard i ever seen started to walk towards me, looked moore like a bouncer at a bar than any one that hs would hire.
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Post by canucklehead on Oct 7, 2007 6:52:01 GMT -4
I guess when you play the mighty Patrick Roy these are some of the things your taught! Classy stuff but not surprised with the ways things are they do have Patrick Roy as a coach! I'm not defending whatever happened, as I wasn't even there to see what you're talking about... but when I hear that teenage hockey players reacted poorly to hecklers and as such have no class, it's so hypocritical it's sickening. Is it the players that have no class or is it the hecklers (who are often much older than the kids playing)? What kind of double standard is that? And oh yes, the kids in the stands who have to witness this atrocity... maybe you should think twice about that. Should the kids in the stands have to witness adults trash-talking teenagers on their way off the ice after a hockey game? I don't care what happened the guy hit a kid with his stick suck it up buttercup! If he wants play professional hockey at some point he better get used to it cause this is Jr hockey try the NHL or any other professional league and you'll find this is very minor heckling compared to the pro leagues. Gotta learn to handle themselves better it's not like they were 16 or 17 year old players either Desfosses is 20 and Poulin is 19 so their adults and you have to be accountable for your actions.
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 7, 2007 8:35:38 GMT -4
Desfosses should be suspended, but Saint John should be fined. The fact that hecklers were allowed near the players AFTER the game shows a lack of security, which the team is responsible for. The kid has no one to blame but his parents/guardians because he/she should not have been there (awesome parenting). Heckling IS NOT part of the game. The Q is a part of Hockey Canada which strongly disagrees with heckling. Just because a few idiots don't understand this, doesn't make it right. Booing Angelo is disgraceful, especially since JB did something even more underhanded with Anthony. To the players who flipped off the fans, you deserve applause for that. There is no need for this to be complained about if they are being heckled. Also, Desfosses was probably assaulted before he responded, so hopefully the league responds appropriately and hands Saint John a sizeable fine, to suggest that this crap is unacceptable.
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Post by dogcatcher on Oct 7, 2007 8:47:57 GMT -4
First, let me say, I don't mind the heckling as long it doesn't get out of hand....
What I've always questioned since the Sea Dogs started playing in this league, is why we don't have a police presence in the building. EVERY arena that I've been to, there been police. Moncton rings a bell as to having ALOT of police just for this reason.
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Post by warrenco on Oct 7, 2007 9:04:40 GMT -4
Desfosses should be suspended, but Saint John should be fined. The fact that hecklers were allowed near the players AFTER the game shows a lack of security, which the team is responsible for. The kid has no one to blame but his parents/guardians because he/she should not have been there (awesome parenting). Heckling IS NOT part of the game. The Q is a part of Hockey Canada which strongly disagrees with heckling. Just because a few idiots don't understand this, doesn't make it right. Booing Angelo is disgraceful, especially since JB did something even more underhanded with Anthony. To the players who flipped off the fans, you deserve applause for that. There is no need for this to be complained about if they are being heckled. Also, Desfosses was probably assaulted before he responded, so hopefully the league responds appropriately and hands Saint John a sizeable fine, to suggest that this crap is unacceptable. well heckling is not part of the game.....but it happens and it will never stop....as for desfosse if he did hit the fan with his stick then sure a suspension but also st. john police should file assult with a weapon charges against him...i know to some players its hard to take the heckling but swing a stick at someone is not good....as for the rest giving the finger if it was caught on tape i do believe the league hands down a one game suspension
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 7, 2007 9:05:03 GMT -4
Police can be expensive depending on the number you want. I've heard that it is around $200 a night to get two officers.
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Post by canucklehead on Oct 7, 2007 9:07:13 GMT -4
Desfosses should be suspended, but Saint John should be fined. The fact that hecklers were allowed near the players AFTER the game shows a lack of security, which the team is responsible for. The kid has no one to blame but his parents/guardians because he/she should not have been there (awesome parenting). Heckling IS NOT part of the game. The Q is a part of Hockey Canada which strongly disagrees with heckling. Just because a few idiots don't understand this, doesn't make it right. Booing Angelo is disgraceful, especially since JB did something even more underhanded with Anthony. To the players who flipped off the fans, you deserve applause for that. There is no need for this to be complained about if they are being heckled. Also, Desfosses was probably assaulted before he responded, so hopefully the league responds appropriately and hands Saint John a sizeable fine, to suggest that this crap is unacceptable. Fine Saint John ummm ok do you not think every rink in the league has these types of things going on shit we might as well fine every team in the league then cuz it happens in every damn rink! Whether or not you want to admit it heckling has gone on for along time and it's not likely to stop in hockey anytime soon and I have no problem with it to a degree even the fact that they flipped someone off I can live with do they deserve applause hell no but whatever. Not gonna revisit the Espo & Anthony thing except to say how the hell was it more underhanded gimmie a break they have always boo'd Espo so what I'm sure he doesn't give a shit it probably makes him more fired up if anything! Maybe someone who was closer might like to let us know if Desfosses was assaulted or not prior to hitting the kid with the stick! My son goes into the lower bowl during the games now he doesn't go to the visitor's side cuz there ain't shit for him there but I hope this doesn't make me a bad parent! How do we even know that his seat wasn't right in that area?
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Post by bjindaho on Oct 7, 2007 9:15:57 GMT -4
Yes, but your son probably isn't allowed to lean over the tunnel railing after the game around a bunch of people who are heckling the visiting team.
The Anthony thing was more underhanded because Anthony had to play Q, and most likely had a deal in place with SJ, whereas Angelo had no intention of playing Q and had a lot of money thrown at him.
I would assume that most rinks have some sort of security that prevent crowds from gathering over the tunnels, free to do and say pretty much whatever they please to opposing players attempting to exit.
And I applaud any player that flips off fans that heckle them AFTER the game, when there is no need and no place. Harbour Station should be very liberal with throwing people out after the game has finished, but they just don't care.
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