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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 28, 2021 13:27:59 GMT -4
I know it's still early and they were missing Springer, but an 11-11 start doesn't scream "running away with the division". Because the hottest teams after 22 games always end up winning the division? Still a ton of baseball left... Being 11-11 while your pitching is overachieving is not a good sign. That remains the huge question mark. Lots of durability issues with Ryu and guys like Matz and Ray who have gotten lit up the last few years.
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Post by SteveUL on Apr 28, 2021 15:19:20 GMT -4
I know it's still early and they were missing Springer, but an 11-11 start doesn't scream "running away with the division". Because the hottest teams after 22 games always end up winning the division? Still a ton of baseball left... Any team can get hot and go on a long run of say 0.667 - 0.700 W%. I expect the Yankees will figure it out soon enough also and climb up to the top of the division. I don't think the Redsox can stay on top of the AL east all year, but they do score a lot of runs, and their pitching has been very good. E Rodriguez is as good as anybody, Eovaldi has been very good (last start was poor), and Pivetta and Richards are looking good. Sale will be back at some point but not sure that he'll be effective this season. Its the starting pitching that was so bad last year, that is a complete turn-around this season. Will it last ... maybe. The division is far from won for anybody and nobody is too far out right now to finish on top. But you have to get hot.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 28, 2021 18:58:58 GMT -4
I guess I shouldn't have used the term "run away with the division", but I do think when the dust settles they will win the division by a comfortable number of games. That is what I am hoping for anyway
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2021 7:42:31 GMT -4
Because the hottest teams after 22 games always end up winning the division? Still a ton of baseball left... Any team can get hot and go on a long run of say 0.667 - 0.700 W%. I expect the Yankees will figure it out soon enough also and climb up to the top of the division. I don't think the Redsox can stay on top of the AL east all year, but they do score a lot of runs, and their pitching has been very good. E Rodriguez is as good as anybody, Eovaldi has been very good (last start was poor), and Pivetta and Richards are looking good. Sale will be back at some point but not sure that he'll be effective this season. Its the starting pitching that was so bad last year, that is a complete turn-around this season. Will it last ... maybe. The division is far from won for anybody and nobody is too far out right now to finish on top. But you have to get hot. The Yankees look very beatable this year, they still have big boppers that will occasionally get 8-10 runs but good pitching can tie them up, their starting and relief pitching both took a step back from last year. They will be in the mix, but I wouldn't be surprised if they finished 2nd, 3rd or even 4th.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2021 7:44:05 GMT -4
I guess I shouldn't have used the term "run away with the division", but I do think when the dust settles they will win the division by a comfortable number of games. That is what I am hoping for anyway I just don't see their pitching being any better, Ryu is still fragile and the numbers will catch up to Matz and Ray. Pearson is the wild card but he is young and has had health and consistency issues.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Apr 29, 2021 13:41:14 GMT -4
I guess I shouldn't have used the term "run away with the division", but I do think when the dust settles they will win the division by a comfortable number of games. That is what I am hoping for anyway I just don't see their pitching being any better, Ryu is still fragile and the numbers will catch up to Matz and Ray. Pearson is the wild card but he is young and has had health and consistency issues. Nobody's pitching staff in the division is overly impressive or scary, and injuries and improvements can happen to anyone. I expect the Jays bats to be able to win them a lot of games where the starting pitching isn't great. If they are in contention half way along, you will probably see them look for a starter. But of course that is a long way, and a lot of unknowns, away right now.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 29, 2021 14:18:03 GMT -4
I just don't see their pitching being any better, Ryu is still fragile and the numbers will catch up to Matz and Ray. Pearson is the wild card but he is young and has had health and consistency issues. Nobody's pitching staff in the division is overly impressive or scary, and injuries and improvements can happen to anyone. I expect the Jays bats to be able to win them a lot of games where the starting pitching isn't great. If they are in contention half way along, you will probably see them look for a starter. But of course that is a long way, and a lot of unknowns, away right now. TB's pitching staff is definitely impressive. Glasnow is an ace and they have a very good pen. They have a few other good arms, Fleming Wacha McClanahan Patino. NYY has Cole, they are hoping Kluber and Taillon regain form. Severino will be back. German is back. They have Chapman and Britton in the pen. Boston has E.Rod back, Sale coming back, Eovaldi is a proven guy, Pivetta has been very good, Richards had a great start Tues. Perez struggled early but had a good year last year. The pen, Barnes has been as good as anybody, Whitlock, Ottavino Sawamura and Andriese have been good. Pitching wise, Toronto is behind those 3 even with good stats to begin.
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Post by Score on Apr 30, 2021 17:26:17 GMT -4
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Post by hal on May 3, 2021 21:00:22 GMT -4
See Aaron Sanchez is starting tonight for the Giants .......kinda forgot about him after his Blister Issue showed up in Houston with the Astros .
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Post by hal on May 5, 2021 21:26:33 GMT -4
George Springer placed on the 10 Day DL ........again .
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Post by scotiahockey on May 6, 2021 8:54:44 GMT -4
George Springer placed on the 10 Day DL ........again . Springer is injury prone, he has a history of soft tissue injuries and problems with his hamstring/quad. I think this is going to be a continuous problem for him this year and as the Jays move forward in his contract.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 6, 2021 9:00:21 GMT -4
George Springer placed on the 10 Day DL ........again . Springer is injury prone, he has a history of soft tissue injuries and problems with his hamstring/quad. I think this is going to be a continuous problem for him this year and as the Jays move forward in his contract. Good thing the batting order is deep without him. With only a fraction of the protection he should have with Springer in the lineup Vladdy is looking unreal. Hopefully Pearson stays on the right track and can be a #3/4 starter for the last 4 months.
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Post by Captain Obvious on May 6, 2021 9:22:11 GMT -4
George Springer placed on the 10 Day DL ........again . Springer is injury prone, he has a history of soft tissue injuries and problems with his hamstring/quad. I think this is going to be a continuous problem for him this year and as the Jays move forward in his contract. As I said this winter(not injury related though), they should have spent on a good SP instead.
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Post by scotiahockey on May 6, 2021 15:57:08 GMT -4
Springer is injury prone, he has a history of soft tissue injuries and problems with his hamstring/quad. I think this is going to be a continuous problem for him this year and as the Jays move forward in his contract. As I said this winter(not injury related though), they should have spent on a good SP instead. Only problem is outside of Bauer you’re likely looking at quantity over quality. There was some good pitchers available but they’re either older or probably not interested in coming to Toronto.. money talks so someone may have come. I don’t like Springer, his injury history would scare me and I generally think he’s overvalued. There’s no doubt he’s good but I’m not sure he’s worth what they paid.
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Post by Jack Bauer on May 6, 2021 16:24:03 GMT -4
As I said this winter(not injury related though), they should have spent on a good SP instead. Only problem is outside of Bauer you’re likely looking at quantity over quality. There was some good pitchers available but they’re either older or probably not interested in coming to Toronto.. money talks so someone may have come. I don’t like Springer, his injury history would scare me and I generally think he’s overvalued. There’s no doubt he’s good but I’m not sure he’s worth what they paid. Part of that signing was an image they were trying to shake. The Jays have a weak reputation in free agency and they've started shedding it the last 2 years with Ryu and Springer. Overpaying an OF like Springer who should keep his bat even if his legs go as he ages was way better then overpaying a #3/4 pitcher. Hindsight will say for sure but I think they end up content with that decision as it will have proven to be a bit of a game changer in terms of shifting the image from a rebuild to a powerhouse market trying to contend. Bauer was never happening.
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