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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 9, 2009 19:52:30 GMT -4
What about Ciampini's linemate, Frederic Gamelin?? Seems, by the numbers, he's a pure playmaking centre. Looks to be a 1st rounder. Some prefer Gamelin, but he is only 5'07 145
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Post by howitzer on Dec 9, 2009 20:01:05 GMT -4
Has a group (say 5-6) players emerge yet as legitimate shots to go #1 or to be the "top 5" of the draft? Every year its seems there is always a group of players considered to be 1st rounders, but within that group, 5-6 are the elite level guys who, if you polled most scouts and GMs, would agree are the top of the group. Has the season progressed far enough to where that has happened or is it still too early??
There have been a lot of names of good players thrown out there for this draft. Luca Ciampni, Taylor Burke, Frederic Gamelin, Toliver Bergeron, Louick Marcotte, Devon Oliver-Dares, Samuel Hodbod, Jeremie Fraser.
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Post by nsmmhlfan09 on Dec 10, 2009 3:25:15 GMT -4
Ciampini should be a given to be the mooses 1st over all. He would be a surefir contribution. However, it would be interesting to see some hometown boys make the cut next season..
Whoever said the 1994 Maritime crop is above average this year is correct. Two 1994 first years are taking the top spots in forward and defence pts..
Taylor Burke and Kyle Ferrel keep putting each other in and out of the top spot for forwards, though Ferrell does not have the size YET to play in the Q. Taylor Burke of Cole Harbour IMO is much more of an impressive skater, and team player than Devon Oliver-Dares. Burke also has the size. He is tall, strong on the puck, and improved amencley on his team play this year. He is a natural scorer.
Adam Brown is a 1994 who leads the league in defencemen pts. He is a very versitile player, an offensive and defencive player. Very strong on the puck as well, and has great speed. Has fairly good size, and apparently has moose roots in his blood.
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 10, 2009 9:08:20 GMT -4
Ciampini should be a given to be the mooses 1st over all. He would be a surefir contribution. However, it would be interesting to see some hometown boys make the cut next season.. Whoever said the 1994 Maritime crop is above average this year is correct. Two 1994 first years are taking the top spots in forward and defence pts.. Taylor Burke and Kyle Ferrel keep putting each other in and out of the top spot for forwards, though Ferrell does not have the size YET to play in the Q. Taylor Burke of Cole Harbour IMO is much more of an impressive skater, and team player than Devon Oliver-Dares. Burke also has the size. He is tall, strong on the puck, and improved amencley on his team play this year. He is a natural scorer. Adam Brown is a 1994 who leads the league in defencemen pts. He is a very versitile player, an offensive and defencive player. Very strong on the puck as well, and has great speed. Has fairly good size, and apparently has moose roots in his blood. The 94's are above average in NS but they are well below average in NB, PEI and NL. In fact i dont see 1 1994 playing IN Newfoundland who will be picked. Andrew Ryan is playing for the Hounds. There are maybe 3 legit 1994 prospects in NB (playing Major Midget, RNS Prep has 5-6 pretty good 94's though)...which is far far below what they normally produce. I wouldnt say Ciampini is a lock...people have always been concerned with his skating, some say its reminicent to that of Guillaume Latendresse. He is going to be a good player but it wouldnt suprise me if Halifax took Burke, im almost expecting it to be honest. Farrell is 5'06...I wouldnt even say hes a lock to be picked at all let alone being in the same class as Taylor Burke. Farrell is no better than Andrew Langan was back in Midget and look where Langan is. Farrell has skill, but you have to take the size into consideration, not to mention Langan was grittier and he had problems sticking around. Adam Brown is 5'07 160...i wouldnt really call that good size, considering hes a dman...and hes soft as heck in his own zone and gets knocked off the puck regularly. He is however dynamic in the offensive zone and can QB a PP but his skating/size/strength grade as well below average.
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 10, 2009 9:14:37 GMT -4
Has a group (say 5-6) players emerge yet as legitimate shots to go #1 or to be the "top 5" of the draft? Every year its seems there is always a group of players considered to be 1st rounders, but within that group, 5-6 are the elite level guys who, if you polled most scouts and GMs, would agree are the top of the group. Has the season progressed far enough to where that has happened or is it still too early?? There have been a lot of names of good players thrown out there for this draft. Luca Ciampni, Taylor Burke, Frederic Gamelin, Toliver Bergeron, Louick Marcotte, Devon Oliver-Dares, Samuel Hodbod, Jeremie Fraser. Toliver Bergeron, Devon Oliver-Dares and Samuel Hodhod are doubtful to be picked in round 1 let alone 1st overall...Jeremie Fraser is good but more like an 8th-12th overall pick. In my opinion there are maybe 2-3 players who could/should go 1st overall....but there are other good players hovering around who could supplant someone in that top 3 Taylor Burke, Cole Harbour Luca Ciampini, Chateauguay Frederik Gamelin, Chateauguay Andrew Ryan, ND Hounds Liam O'Brien, ND Hounds Loic Marcotte, CCL Dominic Poulin, SSF
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Post by nsmmhlfan09 on Dec 10, 2009 12:20:38 GMT -4
Ciampini and Burke will go well before Andrews and O'Brien, and Oliver-Dares for that matter. Brown is listed as 5'10, 170, not 5'7, 160. Judging by the Physical reports taking at the development camp, he was well above average. Also proved himself amencely in the prospect game, even getting a goal. Burke made the u-17 team atlantic roster, O'Brien also tried out for this team. Burke is dangeling around the top in pts for the league, the kid is a natural goal scorer.
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 10, 2009 12:39:08 GMT -4
It will be interesting to see who we complete with for that lottery spot. Right now it looks like it could be Lewy. I wonder if its a Quebec team (VD, BC etc) if they'd LIKELY take the french player... and likewise, if theres not much difference, would we take Taylor. Im sure we'd love to have a local potential star player... so that the fans can get on him and we can ruin him Does Lewy have their 1st round pick? What about VD or BC?
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 10, 2009 12:44:12 GMT -4
Ciampini and Burke will go well before Andrews and O'Brien, and Oliver-Dares for that matter. Brown is listed as 5'10, 170, not 5'7, 160. Judging by the Physical reports taking at the development camp, he was well above average. Also proved himself amencely in the prospect game, even getting a goal. Burke made the u-17 team atlantic roster, O'Brien also tried out for this team. Burke is dangeling around the top in pts for the league, the kid is a natural goal scorer. That very well may happen...im not a huge O'Brien fan...I think Burke is the best player from Atlantic Canada so i wasnt really saying I liked O'Brien, Ryan or Dares more. Where is Brown listed at 5'10?? CSR has him at 5'07 and they took measurements of every player back in mid November. He isnt a bad player but I just disagreed with what you said about him.
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Post by moosie on Dec 10, 2009 13:48:26 GMT -4
Any chance anyone will take a flyer on Darcy Ashley? I know he is interested in the NCAA but is there any chance he can be convinced to report to a Maritime team. Leading the MJAHL in scoring as a 16 year old is impressive. If he were to report to a Q league team where would he fit in this years draft.
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Post by Score on Dec 10, 2009 13:51:33 GMT -4
Any chance anyone will take a flyer on Darcy Ashley? I know he is interested in the NCAA but is there any chance he can be convinced to report to a Maritime team. Leading the MJAHL in scoring as a 16 year old is impressive. If he were to report to a Q league team where would he fit in this years draft. A team may take him in a late round.........but the chances of him playing Q hockey are very very very slim...
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Post by nsmmhlfan09 on Dec 10, 2009 15:57:17 GMT -4
Ciampini and Burke will go well before Andrews and O'Brien, and Oliver-Dares for that matter. Brown is listed as 5'10, 170, not 5'7, 160. Judging by the Physical reports taking at the development camp, he was well above average. Also proved himself amencely in the prospect game, even getting a goal. Burke made the u-17 team atlantic roster, O'Brien also tried out for this team. Burke is dangeling around the top in pts for the league, the kid is a natural goal scorer. That very well may happen...im not a huge O'Brien fan...I think Burke is the best player from Atlantic Canada so i wasnt really saying I liked O'Brien, Ryan or Dares more. Where is Brown listed at 5'10?? CSR has him at 5'07 and they took measurements of every player back in mid November. He isnt a bad player but I just disagreed with what you said about him. HNS updated records as of Dec 2nd. I think with the proper training we could see him go in the first 2 rounds. Burke a sure slot of first round. We have to start looking at our boys on the blueline, and who we need to pick up.
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Post by nsmmhlfan09 on Dec 10, 2009 15:58:19 GMT -4
As well on the NSMMHL website, updated heights and weights, or on team personal sites.
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 10, 2009 16:09:11 GMT -4
Brown isnt 5'10...HNS and the NSMMHL are either out of date and/or input by the teams...
Who would you trust HNS and Team sites? Or the CSR who are unbias and a third party with nothing to gain from 'augmenting' a players height. Plus you can easily tell by watching the games that Brown isnt near 5'10.
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Post by halimajor on Dec 14, 2009 22:51:16 GMT -4
For the forwards you guys are talkin about from the NSMMHL Burke is by far the best of the first years, making U17's and all, but can't play in the big game. At U16's when he went he was invisible as well as when he's played Halifax Titans this year who are by far the best NSMMHL team this year. And on the goalies there Boucher and Jefferys aren't good at all and Whitney is just big and gets in the way. No rebound control what so ever. Brennen is the way to go there with the best GAA in the league as a first year. Finally O'Brien and Oliver-Dares. O'B has skills but is WAY to selfish with the puck and thinks hes the team when hes not at al. Oliver-Dares just has temper problems and will sit in the box all night with a smart team playin against him. Just what I see and have taken in when i've played with and against them.
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Post by lalalaprise on Dec 14, 2009 23:39:16 GMT -4
For the forwards you guys are talkin about from the NSMMHL Burke is by far the best of the first years, making U17's and all, but can't play in the big game. At U16's when he went he was invisible as well as when he's played Halifax Titans this year who are by far the best NSMMHL team this year. And on the goalies there Boucher and Jefferys aren't good at all and Whitney is just big and gets in the way. No rebound control what so ever. Brennen is the way to go there with the best GAA in the league as a first year. Finally O'Brien and Oliver-Dares. O'B has skills but is WAY to selfish with the puck and thinks hes the team when hes not at al. Oliver-Dares just has temper problems and will sit in the box all night with a smart team playin against him. Just what I see and have taken in when i've played with and against them. Whitney doesnt just "get in the way" He is 6'05 180 and he moves quicker than Brennan who is 5'10 155...when you're big and fast at that age, you are only going to get better. It reminds me of last year when some people preferred Tingley over Jordan Kennedy. Sure Tingley and Brennan have pretty stats, something Whintey can only dream of, but the long term upside isnt even close. I agree on O'Brien, he tends to play selfish, but hes 15...same for Dares, yeah hes a hot head now, but hes still a kid.
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