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Post by countryboy on Sept 27, 2007 22:08:35 GMT -4
The Q would never get away with having byes for top level teams eventually advancing to the Memorial Cup. The WHL and OHL have numbers of teams that make a 16 team playoff more suitable. If we're going to battle them in the Memorial Cup, it only makes sense that teams go through the same road to get there. Except, of course, the host team. Maybe I've stirred something up and we'll get you talking how the Memorial Cup is organized ..... Now, about Yannick Jean........ cb Or if you want a balanced playoff bracket then you reduce the number of teams to 8 teams but then you only have 3 rounds of playoffs where after a team wins the first round they are already in the semi-finals. Again I think this takes away from the playoffs because it makes it easier for a team to win the championship. "EASIER"? A team that finished first doesn't have to play a 16th-place team, and you think we're giving that first-place team an unfair advantage? It's a lot more unfair to have a team that finished 10 games under .500 and has no business being in there hit a lucky streak and down a much better team in a short series - now THAT'S unfair! Three rounds of playoffs is plenty! Football has three rounds of playoffs, baseball has three rounds of playoffs, nothing wrong with that. You think it's easy finishing first in an 18-team league? Think again! Teams that have worked hard, played well, and shown their superiority during the regular season should deserve something for their effort - if that means a bye, then a bye it is....which is what you'd have with 12 teams in the playoffs - it's a compromise between 8 and 16 teams, the way I see it. Last year, Lewiston, after finishing first and dominating the league, were "rewarded" by having to travel to Shawinigan to play the sad-sack Cataractes - some reward! The previous year was the classic series between 1st-place Moncton and 16th place Victoriaville...what a great show THAT was! My preference would be to have only 8 teams in the playoffs - this way, all the series would be competitive, and you'd get rid of the gross mismatches that we've been witnessing....I know that'll never happen, so 12 would be a reasonable compromise. The Q is the only league I've ever seen that expanded the number of teams (from 16 to 18) and at the same time, DECREASED the number of teams that miss the playoffs, from 3 to 2 - AMAZING! You can't really defend 16 teams out of 18 making the playoffs - it makes the regular season a joke, allows teams into the playoffs that have no business there, gives you godawful matchups in the first round that nobody wants to watch, and is manifestly unfair to teams that have finished in upper reaches of the standings. Time to smarten up. |
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Post by wingman on Sept 27, 2007 22:24:27 GMT -4
The Q would never get away with having byes for top level teams eventually advancing to the Memorial Cup. The WHL and OHL have numbers of teams that make a 16 team playoff more suitable. If we're going to battle them in the Memorial Cup, it only makes sense that teams go through the same road to get there. Except, of course, the host team. Maybe I've stirred something up and we'll get you talking how the Memorial Cup is organized ..... Now, about Yannick Jean........ cb One other advantage to having this amount of teams in the playoffs is that it gives more players a chance to play playoff hockey. The Q is still a developmental league and these kids play in this league to get exposure to NHL and/or other pro scouts and these scouts want to see how these players perform in the playoffs. I'm not saying that a kid won't get drafted because he hasn't been in a playoff game in junior but scouts do take playoff performances under consideration when scouting players. |
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Post by mboyan on Sept 28, 2007 9:30:42 GMT -4
It would seem to me that there needs to be some changes made.....and soon. Coach Jean isn't now, nor has he ever, getting the job done. The top players are not playing up to their potential. The defense looks, at times, horrible. The PP is horrendous.
I have no doubt that this team can (and will) be turned around. But, at what expense?? How long does Savard wait?
It doesn't make a dffierence to me.......Savard already has my money. But, if I were a casual fan, why would I want to go to a Rocket game right now? It's early in the season, the Rocket don't appear to be as good as they've been made out to be, it's becoming expensive to get a ticket....there are a myriad of reasons for the casual fan not to go.
I don't think that Savard can wait much longer.
And, for the record, I believe that Savard should be fired, as well as the coach. He's made some good trades, but seems to be unable to get Jean to develop players correctly (this is a developmental league, after all), and to make key decisions, at the right time. Even though I know this will not happen, I still think it should.
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Post by bois on Sept 28, 2007 10:05:55 GMT -4
I am a bit puzzled as to why Savard has essentially gone into hiding since opening night. Nothing in the press from him at all.
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 28, 2007 10:07:31 GMT -4
Or if you want a balanced playoff bracket then you reduce the number of teams to 8 teams but then you only have 3 rounds of playoffs where after a team wins the first round they are already in the semi-finals. Again I think this takes away from the playoffs because it makes it easier for a team to win the championship. "EASIER"? A team that finished first doesn't have to play a 16th-place team, and you think we're giving that first-place team an unfair advantage? It's a lot more unfair to have a team that finished 10 games under .500 and has no business being in there hit a lucky streak and down a much better team in a short series - now THAT'S unfair! Three rounds of playoffs is plenty! Football has three rounds of playoffs, baseball has three rounds of playoffs, nothing wrong with that. You think it's easy finishing first in an 18-team league? Think again! Teams that have worked hard, played well, and shown their superiority during the regular season should deserve something for their effort - if that means a bye, then a bye it is....which is what you'd have with 12 teams in the playoffs - it's a compromise between 8 and 16 teams, the way I see it. Last year, Lewiston, after finishing first and dominating the league, were "rewarded" by having to travel to Shawinigan to play the sad-sack Cataractes - some reward! The previous year was the classic series between 1st-place Moncton and 16th place Victoriaville...what a great show THAT was! My preference would be to have only 8 teams in the playoffs - this way, all the series would be competitive, and you'd get rid of the gross mismatches that we've been witnessing....I know that'll never happen, so 12 would be a reasonable compromise. The Q is the only league I've ever seen that expanded the number of teams (from 16 to 18) and at the same time, DECREASED the number of teams that miss the playoffs, from 3 to 2 - AMAZING! You can't really defend 16 teams out of 18 making the playoffs - it makes the regular season a joke, allows teams into the playoffs that have no business there, gives you godawful matchups in the first round that nobody wants to watch, and is manifestly unfair to teams that have finished in upper reaches of the standings. Time to smarten up. Its a development league ... and playoff experience is highly important to the players' development. If only 8 teams are making the playoffs then that leaves 10 teams and roughly 250 players that get no playoff experience. If a team missed the playoffs 2 or 3 yrs in a row due to a rebuilding phase ... they could go down the tubes. Fans need to see their team have a chance to move up. Last year Halifax finished 14th overall ... or something like that. But their last few months of the season they were one of the best teams in the Q ... their key players developed over the season ... bought into the Coach's systems ... gelled as a group ... and were tough to play against down the stretch. In your scenario they wouldn't make the playoffs ... yet they were one of the best teams in the Q the second half. We won't be producing nearly as many NHLers if we cut down to less than 16 teams in the playoffs ... and that is what this league is all about ... producing quality players for the pros. Its not all about keeping you interested ... if you aren't interested in simply going to a hockey game for the simple enjoyment of the game ... then you aren't really a great fan of the game ... you are more of a fringe fan. We had lost of "playoff races" last year ... not races to make the playoffs ... but races for positioning for home ice in the first round ... PEI was chasing Moncton to try and finish ahead of them for the first time in their existence ... right down to the wire ... Bathurst was in the same race. The Telus division was tight from 1st to 8th and only on the last day was it decided who would finish where ... not really exciting to us East division fans ... but it was to the telus fans. The Q is a business and so is each individual team ... they all have to remain financially stable ... and creating a scenario where fans would give up on their team in February ... in 6 or 7 different cities ... would be disastrous. |
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Post by North Shore on Sept 28, 2007 10:43:00 GMT -4
I am a bit puzzled as to why Savard has essentially gone into hiding since opening night. Nothing in the press from him at all. Does the expression; If you don't have any thing good to say then don't say anything at allapply? |
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Post by wingman on Sept 28, 2007 11:41:18 GMT -4
I am a bit puzzled as to why Savard has essentially gone into hiding since opening night. Nothing in the press from him at all. I was wondering the same thing too, but really what kind of positive spin can he put on the season so far? He already came out with his annual pre-season "attendance is down" interview with the only difference this year is that he pointed the finger at the team saying that the on-ice product had to be better. I would be more worried and more pissed if he came out right now saying that things are ok and it's still early in the season like he did in other seasons. After so many seasons people are going to stop buying that. This is just a guess, but perhaps he is starting to realize this and hopefully he'll also realize that it's time for action instead of just talk. |
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Post by SteveUL on Sept 28, 2007 13:18:44 GMT -4
I am a bit puzzled as to why Savard has essentially gone into hiding since opening night. Nothing in the press from him at all. I was wondering the same thing too, but really what kind of positive spin can he put on the season so far? He already came out with his annual pre-season "attendance is down" interview with the only difference this year is that he pointed the finger at the team saying that the on-ice product had to be better. I would be more worried and more pissed if he came out right now saying that things are ok and it's still early in the season like he did in other seasons. After so many seasons people are going to stop buying that. This is just a guess, but perhaps he is starting to realize this and hopefully he'll also realize that it's time for action instead of just talk. That comment would seem to suggest that Savard will fire Jean if things don't improve. Thats a positive. |
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Post by section20ernie on Sept 28, 2007 21:07:32 GMT -4
I am a bit puzzled as to why Savard has essentially gone into hiding since opening night. Nothing in the press from him at all. I was wondering the same thing too, but really what kind of positive spin can he put on the season so far? He already came out with his annual pre-season "attendance is down" interview with the only difference this year is that he pointed the finger at the team saying that the on-ice product had to be better. I would be more worried and more pissed if he came out right now saying that things are ok and it's still early in the season like he did in other seasons. After so many seasons people are going to stop buying that. This is just a guess, but perhaps he is starting to realize this and hopefully he'll also realize that it's time for action instead of just talk. Perhaps Savard is not saying much because his house is for sale and he, along with his father, are selling their share in the team to an Island family... That said, they do hafta get rid of Jean. Fan support would likely increase if the team had systems, more than two lines and 4 d-men played regularly and the team put out some effort. |
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Post by hockey1981 on Sept 28, 2007 21:14:29 GMT -4
time has come, jean has to go!
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Post by rocketlauncher on Sept 28, 2007 21:19:11 GMT -4
Selling? Is that true?
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Post by section20ernie on Sept 28, 2007 21:21:05 GMT -4
I've heard rumblings.. and the house was in the real estate guide i believe |
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Post by hockeydog on Sept 28, 2007 21:21:47 GMT -4
is this true? when did this come about? first i heard of it.
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Post by rocketlauncher on Sept 28, 2007 21:24:25 GMT -4
Maybe his house is for sale because hes moving the team again
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Post by section20ernie on Sept 28, 2007 21:26:46 GMT -4
Maybe his house is for sale because hes moving the team again I will admit I am not the source of the information, it was mentioned to me and it seems logical.. What I heard is the team isn't in jeopardy of leaving as the buyers are from the Island.. but who knows... may be just people trying to stir the pot... |
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