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Post by thegoaliegm on Dec 18, 2018 20:51:25 GMT -4
I don't agree with giving D'orio away just for the sake of trading him but I hope a decent return for him is not being turned down because Georgie wants more if he is back as a twenty year old. I think there is a very small chance that Alex is back next year. If the teams focus is in 2 years, why not give Dorio a normal second half of this season with another team. |
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Post by dogsfan1978 on Dec 18, 2018 21:06:45 GMT -4
I don't agree with giving D'orio away just for the sake of trading him but I hope a decent return for him is not being turned down because Georgie wants more if he is back as a twenty year old. I think there is a very small chance that Alex is back next year. If the teams focus is in 2 years, why not give Dorio a normal second half of this season with another team. I would tend to agree plus, getting something is better than nothing. D’Orio deserves to play on a decent team for at least half a season IMO |
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Post by j3e4 on Dec 18, 2018 22:42:21 GMT -4
Just to be clear, I didn't mean to say that the deal fell through because of conditions for if he returns at 20. I'm just saying that at one point I heard it was pretty much a done deal but that was one detail yet to be worked out at that point in time. When I heard this there didn't seem to be any expectation that this final detail was much of an issue and was unlikely to be a deal-breaker. It could have easily fallen through for a different reason.
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Post by bois on Dec 19, 2018 10:52:58 GMT -4
Just to be clear, I didn't mean to say that the deal fell through because of conditions for if he returns at 20. I'm just saying that at one point I heard it was pretty much a done deal but that was one detail yet to be worked out at that point in time. When I heard this there didn't seem to be any expectation that this final detail was much of an issue and was unlikely to be a deal-breaker. It could have easily fallen through for a different reason. which is probably why people should wait for a deal to actually happen before posting it as fact because some moron with a twitter account claims it's true |
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Post by bois on Dec 19, 2018 10:53:34 GMT -4
Just to be clear, I didn't mean to say that the deal fell through because of conditions for if he returns at 20. I'm just saying that at one point I heard it was pretty much a done deal but that was one detail yet to be worked out at that point in time. When I heard this there didn't seem to be any expectation that this final detail was much of an issue and was unlikely to be a deal-breaker. It could have easily fallen through for a different reason. edited for accidental double post |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 19, 2018 11:50:35 GMT -4
Just to be clear, I didn't mean to say that the deal fell through because of conditions for if he returns at 20. I'm just saying that at one point I heard it was pretty much a done deal but that was one detail yet to be worked out at that point in time. When I heard this there didn't seem to be any expectation that this final detail was much of an issue and was unlikely to be a deal-breaker. It could have easily fallen through for a different reason. edited for accidental double post Poorly edited by some "moron" with a Proboards account.  |
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Post by bois on Dec 19, 2018 12:18:00 GMT -4
edited for accidental double post Poorly edited by some "moron" with a Proboards account. well i'm no proboards expert.... the site was acting funky this morning.. i see now i somehow had posted 3 times.... thanks for pointing out my moron ways now to the pouint at hand since you actually have an opinion on everything..... am i to take you agree with the notion of people rushing to social media to report trades/injuries/guys being cut etc as some sort of valuable asset? Even when they often have only partial story or in several cases have been completely wrong ? Remember these are teenage kids who for the most part are not going to play professionally..... it's not like you're uncovering some great newsstory by actually waiting to report on something that you know actually happens? |
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Post by SteveUL on Dec 19, 2018 13:14:05 GMT -4
Poorly edited by some "moron" with a Proboards account. well i'm no proboards expert.... the site was acting funky this morning.. i see now i somehow had posted 3 times.... thanks for pointing out my moron ways now to the pouint at hand since you actually have an opinion on everything..... am i to take you agree with the notion of people rushing to social media to report trades/injuries/guys being cut etc as some sort of valuable asset? Even when they often have only partial story or in several cases have been completely wrong ? Remember these are teenage kids who for the most part are not going to play professionally..... it's not like you're uncovering some great newsstory by actually waiting to report on something that you know actually happens? I have a twitter account but don't follow anybody that might be posting Q rumours. I don't see it on Facebook either. I see posts made on here that are cut and pasted from Twitter, but until the trade period opens I don't consider them as gospel. I actually find them somewhat interesting and they create discussion. There is usually a side calling it BS and a side arguing that its real. As we run up to the trade period every year, people are starving for info on rumours of deals that will (or won't) happen. It simply creates discussion ... which is what I think interests people enough to come to these boards in the first place. If you don't like these rumours, maybe just stop following the accounts that are posting them. I don't follow the Q as closely as I use to so reading trade rumours doesn't do so much for me as I don't know half of the players involved anyway. As for this involving teenagers ... it has always been this way in the Q. This league is supposed to be preparing players for the next level and if they get to the next level the media hype gets greater, and so they have to get use to it. I have been on these boards discussing trade rumours since about 1998. In that time period social media came into play and more information became available. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 19, 2018 14:15:20 GMT -4
well i'm no proboards expert.... the site was acting funky this morning.. i see now i somehow had posted 3 times.... thanks for pointing out my moron ways now to the pouint at hand since you actually have an opinion on everything..... am i to take you agree with the notion of people rushing to social media to report trades/injuries/guys being cut etc as some sort of valuable asset? Even when they often have only partial story or in several cases have been completely wrong ? Remember these are teenage kids who for the most part are not going to play professionally..... it's not like you're uncovering some great newsstory by actually waiting to report on something that you know actually happens? I have a twitter account but don't follow anybody that might be posting Q rumours. I don't see it on Facebook either. I see posts made on here that are cut and pasted from Twitter, but until the trade period opens I don't consider them as gospel. I actually find them somewhat interesting and they create discussion. There is usually a side calling it BS and a side arguing that its real. As we run up to the trade period every year, people are starving for info on rumours of deals that will (or won't) happen. It simply creates discussion ... which is what I think interests people enough to come to these boards in the first place. If you don't like these rumours, maybe just stop following the accounts that are posting them. I don't follow the Q as closely as I use to so reading trade rumours doesn't do so much for me as I don't know half of the players involved anyway. As for this involving teenagers ... it has always been this way in the Q. This league is supposed to be preparing players for the next level and if they get to the next level the media hype gets greater, and so they have to get use to it. I have been on these boards discussing trade rumours since about 1998. In that time period social media came into play and more information became available. Maybe it's just me but what we've lost over those 2 decades is local sports reporters not afraid to take the local team to task for poor moves or afraid to leak real trade rumors that are not readily available everywhere you look. Now it's more about keeping relationships and not pissing people off and keeping the public perception about the team looking as optimistic as possible. Journalists have stopped doing their job and reporting all the facts they know about situations in exchange for being the 1st ones to be able to break the fact that a 7th Dman got moved for an 8th rounder. |
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Post by CrazyJoeDavola on Dec 19, 2018 16:05:49 GMT -4
I have a twitter account but don't follow anybody that might be posting Q rumours. I don't see it on Facebook either. I see posts made on here that are cut and pasted from Twitter, but until the trade period opens I don't consider them as gospel. I actually find them somewhat interesting and they create discussion. There is usually a side calling it BS and a side arguing that its real. As we run up to the trade period every year, people are starving for info on rumours of deals that will (or won't) happen. It simply creates discussion ... which is what I think interests people enough to come to these boards in the first place. If you don't like these rumours, maybe just stop following the accounts that are posting them. I don't follow the Q as closely as I use to so reading trade rumours doesn't do so much for me as I don't know half of the players involved anyway. As for this involving teenagers ... it has always been this way in the Q. This league is supposed to be preparing players for the next level and if they get to the next level the media hype gets greater, and so they have to get use to it. I have been on these boards discussing trade rumours since about 1998. In that time period social media came into play and more information became available. Maybe it's just me but what we've lost over those 2 decades is local sports reporters not afraid to take the local team to task for poor moves or afraid to leak real trade rumors that are not readily available everywhere you look. Now it's more about keeping relationships and not pissing people off and keeping the public perception about the team looking as optimistic as possible. Journalists have stopped doing their job and reporting all the facts they know about situations in exchange for being the 1st ones to be able to break the fact that a 7th Dman got moved for an 8th rounder. I hear this a lot (probably all from Guru) but when did this happen? When did we have investigative reporters taking teams to task for a bad trade or game? I remember they never wrote stories about personal off ice/dressing room issues. It was always discussed here, rightly or wrongly. I just don't recall a period where the reporters dug for dirt and challenged the team management etc, other than writing recap stories on a failed playoff run etc... |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 19, 2018 16:33:24 GMT -4
Maybe it's just me but what we've lost over those 2 decades is local sports reporters not afraid to take the local team to task for poor moves or afraid to leak real trade rumors that are not readily available everywhere you look. Now it's more about keeping relationships and not pissing people off and keeping the public perception about the team looking as optimistic as possible. Journalists have stopped doing their job and reporting all the facts they know about situations in exchange for being the 1st ones to be able to break the fact that a 7th Dman got moved for an 8th rounder. I hear this a lot (probably all from Guru) but when did this happen? When did we have investigative reporters taking teams to task for a bad trade or game? I remember they never wrote stories about personal off ice/dressing room issues. It was always discussed here, rightly or wrongly. I just don't recall a period where the reporters dug for dirt and challenged the team management etc, other than writing recap stories on a failed playoff run etc... Not "dirt" necessarily. Just news from locally or around the league that was "inside" info as it wasn't heard elsewhere until it was broken by that reporter or their strong opinion was in print and not seemingly filtered by the team for political correctness. During the Pascal Vincent era our local newspaper coverage was much much better to the point of it no longer even being comparable. If the team wasn't looking good....you'd read about it. If they were...you'd read about it. But it wasn't this "eternal optimism everyone tries hard but not everyone does good!" attitude that I feel we're overrun with now from the media. Guys like Brad Rowe and Willy Palov also weren't scared to share info such as "hearing this guy is available" or "this local coach is rumored to be on the hot seat". Now it's like the papers need permission from the teams to print that stuff. Look at how awful MA Dumont's teams have looked at times here then go and read all the comments from the CB Post, Herald, and Eastlink reports during the last ~7 years or so. I don't think there's been 1 article or comment pointing out how his teams consistently seems to fail in some areas over and over again. But not even 1 person saying "why does Cape Breton keep employing an average coach?" or "what does team Canada see in this person that so many around the league do not?". I don't want dirt as in what coach is sleeping with who or what player is fighting with who, lets make that clear I just want unbias and honest coverage. What I see is team filtered propaganda along with game write ups that can be done by someone reading a box score rather then a write up from someone at the game making me feel like I missed something or why a key offside cost a team a late scoring chance or how that big hit in the 1st period led to a momentum shift. I feel like there's not enough of that any more. It's like they gear those articles to those who have already seen it. |
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Post by moosefan1994 on Dec 19, 2018 16:56:44 GMT -4
Maybe it's just me but what we've lost over those 2 decades is local sports reporters not afraid to take the local team to task for poor moves or afraid to leak real trade rumors that are not readily available everywhere you look. Now it's more about keeping relationships and not pissing people off and keeping the public perception about the team looking as optimistic as possible. Journalists have stopped doing their job and reporting all the facts they know about situations in exchange for being the 1st ones to be able to break the fact that a 7th Dman got moved for an 8th rounder. I hear this a lot (probably all from Guru) but when did this happen? When did we have investigative reporters taking teams to task for a bad trade or game? I remember they never wrote stories about personal off ice/dressing room issues. It was always discussed here, rightly or wrongly. I just don't recall a period where the reporters dug for dirt and challenged the team management etc, other than writing recap stories on a failed playoff run etc... In a past life on the Halifax Daily News, when it existed, I wrote a letter eviscerating the Mooseheads and Phillip Croucher was the sports editor at the time- he was taken to task, to put it politely, by Bobby Smith for printing it. This must have been around 2006 or so, it was before I joined Moose Talk in 2008. |
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Post by Jack Bauer on Dec 19, 2018 17:09:32 GMT -4
I hear this a lot (probably all from Guru) but when did this happen? When did we have investigative reporters taking teams to task for a bad trade or game? I remember they never wrote stories about personal off ice/dressing room issues. It was always discussed here, rightly or wrongly. I just don't recall a period where the reporters dug for dirt and challenged the team management etc, other than writing recap stories on a failed playoff run etc... In a past life on the Halifax Daily News, when it existed, I wrote a letter eviscerating the Mooseheads and Phillip Croucher was the sports editor at the time- he was taken to task, to put it politely, by Bobby Smith for printing it. This must have been around 2006 or so, it was before I joined Moose Talk in 2008. Yep that's right around when I feel like the media coverage began to change. Palov's coverage has changed a lot since he called Bobby Smith a dinosaur as others have pointed out. |
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Post by Murph on Dec 20, 2018 9:48:26 GMT -4
Maybe it's just me but what we've lost over those 2 decades is local sports reporters not afraid to take the local team to task for poor moves or afraid to leak real trade rumors that are not readily available everywhere you look. Now it's more about keeping relationships and not pissing people off and keeping the public perception about the team looking as optimistic as possible. Journalists have stopped doing their job and reporting all the facts they know about situations in exchange for being the 1st ones to be able to break the fact that a 7th Dman got moved for an 8th rounder. I hear this a lot (probably all from Guru) but when did this happen? When did we have investigative reporters taking teams to task for a bad trade or game? I remember they never wrote stories about personal off ice/dressing room issues. It was always discussed here, rightly or wrongly. I just don't recall a period where the reporters dug for dirt and challenged the team management etc, other than writing recap stories on a failed playoff run etc... Gordy Sutherland and Monty Mosher along with Croucher were far more critical. Perhaps it’s because they weren’t the main guy covering the team, although Croucher was. Matt Wuest wasn’t critical but I found he’d report on rumours more. |
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Post by Slap Shooter on Dec 20, 2018 12:27:51 GMT -4
Here are the current top 9 teams in order of standings. Every other team I feel are already in sell mode. You can probably add Chrlottetown to the list of sellers as well. Most are pretty much set in net unless the GM feels D'orio would be an upgrade over the current goalies. Sherbrooke might be a landing place for Alex unless they feel that they want to sell off pieces.
Rouyn-Noranda, Huskies
Drummondville, Voltigeurs
Halifax, Mooseheads
Moncton, Wildcats
Baie-Comeau, Drakkar
Rimouski, Océanic
Cape Breton, Screaming Eagles
Charlottetown, Islanders
Sherbrooke, Phoenix
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