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Post by SteveUL on Mar 25, 2020 8:20:52 GMT -4
We have had some good luck over the years in winning two Q championships, but we also have had a long string of bad luck that seems to regularly pop its head up at the worst times.
For example, this shutdown is just another case of bad luck for us with a contending team.
Last year we had the best chance to draft first overall, but dropped to the worst position that we could. We still got what may turn out to be the best player at 3rd, but the fact we dropped to third is the bad luck.
That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton.
In 2010 we lost Deschamps through the playoffs to injury ... but we still won the Prez Cup. Then we lost Riopel to what was probably dehydration as we started the Mem Cup, and we were never quite the same.
In 2006 we paid a big price for Luc Bourdon and he went down with a high ankle sprain and missed much of the playoffs, but did return for the final and the Mem Cup (playing hurt), and we were able to win the Prez Cup.
Way back (can't recall the year) we paid a price for Jonathon Roy and then lost him to cancer.
If you can think of anything else, please add it.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Mar 25, 2020 8:26:46 GMT -4
We have had some good luck over the years in winning two Q championships, but we also have had a long string of bad luck that seems to regularly pop its head up at the worst times. For example, this shutdown is just another case of bad luck for us with a contending team. Last year we had the best chance to draft first overall, but dropped to the worst position that we could. We still got what may turn out to be the best player at 3rd, but the fact we dropped to third is the bad luck. That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton. In 2010 we lost Deschamps through the playoffs to injury ... but we still won the Prez Cup. Then we lost Riopel to what was probably dehydration as we started the Mem Cup, and we were never quite the same. In 2006 we paid a big price for Luc Bourdon and he went down with a high ankle sprain and missed much of the playoffs, but did return for the final and the Mem Cup (playing hurt), and we were able to win the Prez Cup. Way back (can't recall the year) we paid a price for Jonathon Roy and then lost him to cancer. If you can think of anything else, please add it. Riopel had a virus at the Memorial Cup. That's why Owen started the last game and had to come in the game before. |
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Post by jimmy on Mar 25, 2020 8:50:44 GMT -4
We have had some good luck over the years in winning two Q championships, but we also have had a long string of bad luck that seems to regularly pop its head up at the worst times. For example, this shutdown is just another case of bad luck for us with a contending team. Last year we had the best chance to draft first overall, but dropped to the worst position that we could. We still got what may turn out to be the best player at 3rd, but the fact we dropped to third is the bad luck. That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton. In 2010 we lost Deschamps through the playoffs to injury ... but we still won the Prez Cup. Then we lost Riopel to what was probably dehydration as we started the Mem Cup, and we were never quite the same. In 2006 we paid a big price for Luc Bourdon and he went down with a high ankle sprain and missed much of the playoffs, but did return for the final and the Mem Cup (playing hurt), and we were able to win the Prez Cup. Way back (can't recall the year) we paid a price for Jonathon Roy and then lost him to cancer. If you can think of anything else, please add it. Don't forget the year Steve Bernier had appendicitis just before the playoffs - remember how they hung his jersey behind the bench and had an over the top ceremony? |
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Mar 25, 2020 8:54:19 GMT -4
We have had some good luck over the years in winning two Q championships, but we also have had a long string of bad luck that seems to regularly pop its head up at the worst times. For example, this shutdown is just another case of bad luck for us with a contending team. Last year we had the best chance to draft first overall, but dropped to the worst position that we could. We still got what may turn out to be the best player at 3rd, but the fact we dropped to third is the bad luck. That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton. In 2010 we lost Deschamps through the playoffs to injury ... but we still won the Prez Cup. Then we lost Riopel to what was probably dehydration as we started the Mem Cup, and we were never quite the same. In 2006 we paid a big price for Luc Bourdon and he went down with a high ankle sprain and missed much of the playoffs, but did return for the final and the Mem Cup (playing hurt), and we were able to win the Prez Cup. Way back (can't recall the year) we paid a price for Jonathon Roy and then lost him to cancer. If you can think of anything else, please add it. Danny Flynn selected Roman Will 29th overall in the 2011 CHL Import Draft. Andrei Makarov went 30th overall to Saskatoon. |
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Post by Briwhel on Mar 25, 2020 10:11:38 GMT -4
We have had some good luck over the years in winning two Q championships, but we also have had a long string of bad luck that seems to regularly pop its head up at the worst times. For example, this shutdown is just another case of bad luck for us with a contending team. Last year we had the best chance to draft first overall, but dropped to the worst position that we could. We still got what may turn out to be the best player at 3rd, but the fact we dropped to third is the bad luck. That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton. In 2010 we lost Deschamps through the playoffs to injury ... but we still won the Prez Cup. Then we lost Riopel to what was probably dehydration as we started the Mem Cup, and we were never quite the same. In 2006 we paid a big price for Luc Bourdon and he went down with a high ankle sprain and missed much of the playoffs, but did return for the final and the Mem Cup (playing hurt), and we were able to win the Prez Cup. Way back (can't recall the year) we paid a price for Jonathon Roy and then lost him to cancer. If you can think of anything else, please add it. Danny Flynn selected Roman Will 29th overall in the 2011 CHL Import Draft. Andrei Makarov went 30th overall to Saskatoon. Moncton didnt want Makarov. Had 2 shots at him (Lewy dispersal draft too). I think Moncton made out well. Will was very good. |
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 25, 2020 10:59:22 GMT -4
Danny Flynn selected Roman Will 29th overall in the 2011 CHL Import Draft. Andrei Makarov went 30th overall to Saskatoon. Moncton didnt want Makarov. Had 2 shots at him (Lewy dispersal draft too). I think Moncton made out well. Will was very good. It was sarcasm over a long argument that Captain Obvious will never let go of. And this will start him back up. |
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Post by yesisaiditfirst on Mar 25, 2020 23:08:50 GMT -4
"That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton."
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I wonder what effect Lafreniere may have made to possibly tip the balance on the Cats Memorial Cup bid in April 2018. If the lottery had fallen as it should have and Moncton getting Lafreniere instead of Pelletier and how the Q would have that extra carrot to consider Cats/Avenir bid. Not a stretch. I still think the 2017 tank was all about making that happen. So this week even plan B was ended completely by fate.
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Post by SteveUL on Mar 26, 2020 9:44:19 GMT -4
"That same thing happened two years before when we tanked the season and sold all assets, finishing last. But we dropped to third again in the lottery and drafted Pelletier. Pelletier has been a pleasure to watch but he is no Lafreniere. Lafreniere is probably gone from the Q as of now and I expect Pelletier to be back for one more season, but perhaps not in Moncton." ------- I wonder what effect Lafreniere may have made to possibly tip the balance on the Cats Memorial Cup bid in April 2018. If the lottery had fallen as it should have and Moncton getting Lafreniere instead of Pelletier and how the Q would have that extra carrot to consider Cats/Avenir bid. Not a stretch. I still think the 2017 tank was all about making that happen. So this week even plan B was ended completely by fate. I honestly don't think that anybody, other than Quebec City, can compete with Halifax when they bid for a Memorial Cup. Halifax had the team strength already established when it was awarded to them, while Moncton would have had to make several deals to get there. I don't think Lafrenierre would make any difference. A new rink is nice but it is still not as big as the Scotiabank center capacity wise (Moncton doesn't need a bigger rink), and the financials matter too. More seats is an advantage. Halifax's downtown compared to Moncton's isn't even close (in favour of HRM of course), plus their local draw is bigger. I think Moncton probably holds an advantage in the Q over every other team, with the exceptions of Quebec and Halifax. |
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Post by jimmy on Apr 20, 2020 16:13:12 GMT -4
Here is one that kind of fits for this thread ... our first contending team back in 1999/00 lost the conference final to eventual Mem Cup champ Rimouski lead by star Brad Richards. I was just reading an article Craig Eagles wrote a while ago on Rick Melanson's time as a scout with Rimouski - in it, he is quoting as saying the year they got Richards 7th overall, they didn't think he would be there for them - they expected Moncton to grab him first - we picked Morgan Warren instead ...
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 20, 2020 16:21:51 GMT -4
Here is one that kind of fits for this thread ... our first contending team back in 1999/00 lost the conference final to eventual Mem Cup champ Rimouski lead by star Brad Richards. I was just reading an article Craig Eagles wrote a while ago on Rick Melanson's time as a scout with Rimouski - in it, he is quoting as saying the year they got Richards 7th overall, they didn't think he would be there for them - they expected Moncton to grab him first - we picked Morgan Warren instead ... The Cats had a better team than Rimouski but Paiement was a terrible coach. He rode his top 6-7 players like crazy on a team that was very deep, plus Lajeunesse didn't have it against Rimouski and he stuck with him all series. They Bowie on the bench who won a MJAHL title the year before. He could not have played worse. Losing Roy definitely hurt, but they still had a very strong team, I think Ettinger was their #6 d-man and guys like Yetman and Ferland(rookie) on the 4th line. |
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Post by Doug Glatt on Apr 22, 2020 8:12:56 GMT -4
Here is one that kind of fits for this thread ... our first contending team back in 1999/00 lost the conference final to eventual Mem Cup champ Rimouski lead by star Brad Richards. I was just reading an article Craig Eagles wrote a while ago on Rick Melanson's time as a scout with Rimouski - in it, he is quoting as saying the year they got Richards 7th overall, they didn't think he would be there for them - they expected Moncton to grab him first - we picked Morgan Warren instead ... Q-Superstar Mike Ribeiro also went 3rd overall...right after the Warren pick. |
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Post by catzfans on Apr 22, 2020 15:17:28 GMT -4
If memory serves me right I think we had planned on getting both Warren and Richards and didn't know Rimouski had been onto him. I think we even had a jersey with Richards name on the back at the draft.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 22, 2020 16:04:42 GMT -4
If memory serves me right I think we had planned on getting both Warren and Richards and didn't know Rimouski had been onto him. I think we even had a jersey with Richards name on the back at the draft. They had the #8 pick right after Rimouski and took Jonathan Gauthier. |
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Post by catzfans on Apr 22, 2020 16:17:58 GMT -4
If memory serves me right I think we had planned on getting both Warren and Richards and didn't know Rimouski had been onto him. I think we even had a jersey with Richards name on the back at the draft. They had the #8 pick right after Rimouski and took Jonathan Gauthier. Yes. That's the year. We expected to get both PEI boys at #2 and #8 Otherwise, a great draft for us. Lajeunesse, Mirko, Dubuc, Lefrancois. |
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Post by Captain Obvious on Apr 22, 2020 16:27:39 GMT -4
They had the #8 pick right after Rimouski and took Jonathan Gauthier. Yes. That's the year. We expected to get both PEI boys at #2 and #8 Otherwise, a great draft for us. Lajeunesse, Mirko, Dubuc, Lefrancois. The Cats were a good drafting team. even the Alpines year, Dagenais and Roger were Q stars or superstars. Quirk Thomas and Fader were good depth/role guys. Coursol and Savard were solid Q players. |
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