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Post by puckstopper on Nov 6, 2023 12:01:24 GMT -4
As we are now in November we are not that far away from the trade window. Who do we expect to be traded and what would we get for them? Would a team be interested in Leaver as a 20yr goalie? On D would anyone from the top 4 get looked at? I would think Tivey for sure but not sure on the rest. The Forward group I really don’t think there is much for a team to add from us unless they get them cheap. I have only watched this team this season so I could be totally wrong which I probably am.
What’s your thoughts?
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 6, 2023 13:18:58 GMT -4
As we are now in November we are not that far away from the trade window. Who do we expect to be traded and what would we get for them? Would a team be interested in Leaver as a 20yr goalie? On D would anyone from the top 4 get looked at? I would think Tivey for sure but not sure on the rest. The Forward group I really don’t think there is much for a team to add from us unless they get them cheap. I have only watched this team this season so I could be totally wrong which I probably am. What’s your thoughts? I think both Tivey and Mann could have potential value to a contender from the D. Up front, any of Reynolds, Reinhart, Elie, Simek and Mateiko could have value (keeping in mind that their stats are being hindered by 2 of the 4 always playing away from Reynolds (who is undeniably our best FW). I don't think there's any value in Leaver and I'm not sold that getting a character 20 to replace him and a cheap backup for Robinson wouldn't be a better move than keeping him. |
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 6, 2023 13:29:47 GMT -4
As we are now in November we are not that far away from the trade window. Who do we expect to be traded and what would we get for them? Would a team be interested in Leaver as a 20yr goalie? On D would anyone from the top 4 get looked at? I would think Tivey for sure but not sure on the rest. The Forward group I really don’t think there is much for a team to add from us unless they get them cheap. I have only watched this team this season so I could be totally wrong which I probably am. What’s your thoughts? I think both Tivey and Mann could have potential value to a contender from the D. Up front, any of Reynolds, Reinhart, Elie, Simek and Mateiko could have value (keeping in mind that their stats are being hindered by 2 of the 4 always playing away from Reynolds (who is undeniably our best FW). I don't think there's any value in Leaver and I'm not sold that getting a character 20 to replace him and a cheap backup for Robinson wouldn't be a better move than keeping him. I think Tivey will get something good. Mann we should want something better than we gave up for him. Getting him still seems strange but I am not the GM. Upfront Simek and Mateiko would depend on teams with euros correct? Reynolds is good but is 20. I am guessing he would need to be better than the teams other 20’s. I don’t see much value in Reinhart and Elie. I guess if you looked at a teams bottom 6 they could help. Question is what do we get for them? Are we trying to build around a specific group maybe the 2007 kids drafted this year. |
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 6, 2023 13:41:06 GMT -4
I think both Tivey and Mann could have potential value to a contender from the D. Up front, any of Reynolds, Reinhart, Elie, Simek and Mateiko could have value (keeping in mind that their stats are being hindered by 2 of the 4 always playing away from Reynolds (who is undeniably our best FW). I don't think there's any value in Leaver and I'm not sold that getting a character 20 to replace him and a cheap backup for Robinson wouldn't be a better move than keeping him. I think Tivey will get something good. Mann we should want something better than we gave up for him. Getting him still seems strange but I am not the GM. Upfront Simek and Mateiko would depend on teams with euros correct? Reynolds is good but is 20. I am guessing he would need to be better than the teams other 20’s. I don’t see much value in Reinhart and Elie. I guess if you looked at a teams bottom 6 they could help. Question is what do we get for them? Are we trying to build around a specific group maybe the 2007 kids drafted this year. Simek and Mateiko are two of the better imports in the league. They are also 18. Elie is also 18 which helps his value. Reinhart is 19, so he might be worth more to us than to someone else. |
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 6, 2023 15:48:04 GMT -4
Very good points but as 18yr olds are teams making a run going to want them? I would hope so. What do you expect to get for them ?
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Post by bigdog on Nov 6, 2023 20:47:27 GMT -4
I am not sure why someone thinks Reinhart wouldn’t command something decent in a trade…for one he is our best forwards to go in a corner and come out with the puck(reminds me of Cam MacDonald in the corners) and he isn’t afraid to go to the dirty areas (corners and front of the net). He is one of the leaders in scoring on this team and hasn’t played much with Reynolds lately. His shot this year has improved a lot. Lots of contending teams would love to have a player like this…
He is 19, and not drafted so likely to return to a Q team-as a 20 yr old. So a team May get an extra year out of this trade.
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 7, 2023 10:41:45 GMT -4
I am sure he will get a few calls. Is there anyone else who would get a look? Would anyone look at Ianniello or Gauthier? What can we expect the team to look like in January
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 7, 2023 12:07:12 GMT -4
I can't help but looking at how well Cape Breton's needs appear to align with SJ's players.
If they want to upgrade their 3rd pair, SJ has Tivey and Mann possible. Mateiko and Simek would be dramatic upgrades to their imports. Reynolds would be an upgrade to their OA.
That being said, the issue becomes a question of what they want to pay.
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 7, 2023 12:55:07 GMT -4
That’s an interesting thought about CB. I guess what would they have that SJ would want. I don’t SJ would just want picks so do they have anyone in the lineup now that would be of interest
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Post by sherwood1020 on Nov 7, 2023 13:06:01 GMT -4
I can't help but looking at how well Cape Breton's needs appear to align with SJ's players. If they want to upgrade their 3rd pair, SJ has Tivey and Mann possible. Mateiko and Simek would be dramatic upgrades to their imports. Reynolds would be an upgrade to their OA. That being said, the issue becomes a question of what they want to pay. Not sure if the rules are changed but we have 2 first year imports that I don't think can be traded, plus trading Milota would be a major downgrade in nets for the next 2 years. Reynolds would only upgrade our OA core if another defender was coming back the other way to compensate for the loss on defense. I don't see Mann as an upgrade over Shortall or Biggar but Tivey might make it a worthwhile package. The way the team is currently structured and playing I really hope we don't look to upgrade anything and actually sell this year towards pushing our window towards 25-26 instead. |
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 7, 2023 13:16:41 GMT -4
I can't help but looking at how well Cape Breton's needs appear to align with SJ's players. If they want to upgrade their 3rd pair, SJ has Tivey and Mann possible. Mateiko and Simek would be dramatic upgrades to their imports. Reynolds would be an upgrade to their OA. That being said, the issue becomes a question of what they want to pay. Not sure if the rules are changed but we have 2 first year imports that I don't think can be traded, plus trading Milota would be a major downgrade in nets for the next 2 years. Reynolds would only upgrade our OA core if another defender was coming back the other way to compensate for the loss on defense. I don't see Mann as an upgrade over Shortall or Biggar but Tivey might make it a worthwhile package. The way the team is currently structured and playing I really hope we don't look to upgrade anything and actually sell this year towards pushing our window towards 25-26 instead. It's the other import that CB would upgrade if they were going to. I just don't know how bad the disconnect between what ownership seems to want to do (compete which would make SJ a great fit) and what the fans want (sell). |
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 7, 2023 13:55:38 GMT -4
I can't help but looking at how well Cape Breton's needs appear to align with SJ's players. If they want to upgrade their 3rd pair, SJ has Tivey and Mann possible. Mateiko and Simek would be dramatic upgrades to their imports. Reynolds would be an upgrade to their OA. That being said, the issue becomes a question of what they want to pay. Not sure if the rules are changed but we have 2 first year imports that I don't think can be traded, plus trading Milota would be a major downgrade in nets for the next 2 years. Reynolds would only upgrade our OA core if another defender was coming back the other way to compensate for the loss on defense. I don't see Mann as an upgrade over Shortall or Biggar but Tivey might make it a worthwhile package. The way the team is currently structured and playing I really hope we don't look to upgrade anything and actually sell this year towards pushing our window towards 25-26 instead. So if CB is looking at 25-26 they are building around the 2006 group. If that’s the case what do they have that is worth the trade. Tivey would be a great improvement on the backend but what do you give up? Is there an 06 CB woukd part with or is a draft pick. Mateiko also would be a great addition but SJ would want a first round for him would be my guess. |
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Post by sherwood1020 on Nov 7, 2023 14:39:48 GMT -4
Not sure if the rules are changed but we have 2 first year imports that I don't think can be traded, plus trading Milota would be a major downgrade in nets for the next 2 years. Reynolds would only upgrade our OA core if another defender was coming back the other way to compensate for the loss on defense. I don't see Mann as an upgrade over Shortall or Biggar but Tivey might make it a worthwhile package. The way the team is currently structured and playing I really hope we don't look to upgrade anything and actually sell this year towards pushing our window towards 25-26 instead. So if CB is looking at 25-26 they are building around the 2006 group. If that’s the case what do they have that is worth the trade. Tivey would be a great improvement on the backend but what do you give up? Is there an 06 CB woukd part with or is a draft pick. Mateiko also would be a great addition but SJ would want a first round for him would be my guess. CB's current goal is to compete in 24-25, however the current group is 9-9 and isn't (in my own opinion) currently capable of winning anything either this season or next. If we are adding this year, our big trade chip is Saint John's 2024 1st which very well could be a high lottery pick based on who you guys sell at Christmas. |
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Post by puckstopper on Nov 8, 2023 13:39:13 GMT -4
If SJ is selling what should be their focus? Draft picks or should they try and get players from a specific age to start to build to make a run. What age would that be? Do they try and fill spots up front or on D?
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Post by Briwhel on Nov 21, 2023 9:28:52 GMT -4
Big weekend from Reynolds, Ianniello and Elie led to 4 points.
SJ has no shortage of guys that could be available, given that our cycle is built around 07s (at present). We have a few D that could move with guys like Richard and Duhamel who could come back up. Up front is a little dicier, where we don't really have any in-house prospects that would be easy recalls (unless a guy like Lyons would come up after Christmas for a guaranteed spot).
As of right now, we'd have a lottery pick and 9th overall this year, plus we hold ours and CB's 1st next year.
We have quality group of 05s, with some decent 04s, but our 06 group is currently Beaulieu, Calder, Bellemare, MacLean, Robinson (Richard?). Our 07s have some potential with Beveridge and Amyot here and Duhamel in midget.
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