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Post by riverviewroyal on Jan 6, 2024 11:40:56 GMT -4
Oh good! Making a major trade with Halifax worked out tremendously well last time. Absolutely hate these two teams making big trades with each other, no matter how much sense it makes. 100% Am I missing something? The last big trade with Halifax was the trades for Groulx and MacIssac for draft picks, and then L'Heaureux and Desnoyers go to Halifax at that draft and draft picks come back to us. Considering we were going all-in, was that not a fair price to pay to get us over the hump of Sherbrooke and Rimouski that year? By all accounts we looked like the best team in the CHL, the way they moved the puck and dominated the play was the most impressive I've seen from any Moncton team ever Don't even start with the "But it was a wasted season" BS. Life happens unfortunately, can't change it. Can't have expected anyone to predict a season cancelling pandemic to happen and not make those trades Just curious also as to why you would hate these two teams making those big trades? I'm in the mindset that whatever you can do to make your team the best that makes the most sense you do it. Just curious as to the other mindsets behind disliking it
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2024 17:38:26 GMT -4
Am I missing something? The last big trade with Halifax was the trades for Groulx and MacIssac for draft picks, and then L'Heaureux and Desnoyers go to Halifax at that draft and draft picks come back to us. Considering we were going all-in, was that not a fair price to pay to get us over the hump of Sherbrooke and Rimouski that year? By all accounts we looked like the best team in the CHL, the way they moved the puck and dominated the play was the most impressive I've seen from any Moncton team ever Don't even start with the "But it was a wasted season" BS. Life happens unfortunately, can't change it. Can't have expected anyone to predict a season cancelling pandemic to happen and not make those trades Just curious also as to why you would hate these two teams making those big trades? I'm in the mindset that whatever you can do to make your team the best that makes the most sense you do it. Just curious as to the other mindsets behind disliking it It was a big overpayment, looked like Halifax had Moncton over a barrel. L,heureux was a near PPGM guy at 16 and Desnoyers was a very good 17 year old, plus they got 2 1sts plus.
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Post by davo1997 on Jan 6, 2024 17:41:30 GMT -4
Am I missing something? The last big trade with Halifax was the trades for Groulx and MacIssac for draft picks, and then L'Heaureux and Desnoyers go to Halifax at that draft and draft picks come back to us. Considering we were going all-in, was that not a fair price to pay to get us over the hump of Sherbrooke and Rimouski that year? By all accounts we looked like the best team in the CHL, the way they moved the puck and dominated the play was the most impressive I've seen from any Moncton team ever Don't even start with the "But it was a wasted season" BS. Life happens unfortunately, can't change it. Can't have expected anyone to predict a season cancelling pandemic to happen and not make those trades Just curious also as to why you would hate these two teams making those big trades? I'm in the mindset that whatever you can do to make your team the best that makes the most sense you do it. Just curious as to the other mindsets behind disliking it Yea life happens the Cats got screwed in that deal
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 6, 2024 17:52:02 GMT -4
No other Wc trades?
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Post by lirette on Jan 6, 2024 18:05:24 GMT -4
No, which is fine. No way the Cats are ponying up multiple 1sts to try and keep up with the other contenders. They clearly stuck with focusing on next year so everyone should be happy on that. They were never gonna upgrade on Trenholm so not much point in analyzing that. If they had to play Halifax (very likely) in a 2nd round series this year I'd say they have a better chance at beating them compared to last year. If Dumais plays they definitely wouldn't be the favourites, but they should give them a better series anyways. I don't like them trading with Halifax either just for the sake of the rivalry, but I'm not pre determining they've overpaid for anything until the trades are finalized. Nothing productive can come from worry about what that trade could look like at this point.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 6, 2024 20:40:19 GMT -4
Am I missing something? The last big trade with Halifax was the trades for Groulx and MacIssac for draft picks, and then L'Heaureux and Desnoyers go to Halifax at that draft and draft picks come back to us. Considering we were going all-in, was that not a fair price to pay to get us over the hump of Sherbrooke and Rimouski that year? By all accounts we looked like the best team in the CHL, the way they moved the puck and dominated the play was the most impressive I've seen from any Moncton team ever Don't even start with the "But it was a wasted season" BS. Life happens unfortunately, can't change it. Can't have expected anyone to predict a season cancelling pandemic to happen and not make those trades Just curious also as to why you would hate these two teams making those big trades? I'm in the mindset that whatever you can do to make your team the best that makes the most sense you do it. Just curious as to the other mindsets behind disliking it You can debate the price but two years of Desnoyers, three of L'Heureux and two high 1st round picks seemed like a lot. Obviously it looks even worse when you consider how things played out but that isn't anyone's fault. I don't like them trading with each other since this is supposedly a big rivalry, something the league desperately needs more of. That's all. I'd hate to see the rivalry lessened because the teams are helping each other in contending seasons. Feels off to me but obviously Ritchie and Cam Russell have a good working relationship and I totally get that none of this stuff really factors into their decision making. I will certainly hate it a bit less if things work more in the Cats favour this time around.
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Post by Citris on Jan 7, 2024 17:22:58 GMT -4
Am I missing something? The last big trade with Halifax was the trades for Groulx and MacIssac for draft picks, and then L'Heaureux and Desnoyers go to Halifax at that draft and draft picks come back to us. Considering we were going all-in, was that not a fair price to pay to get us over the hump of Sherbrooke and Rimouski that year? By all accounts we looked like the best team in the CHL, the way they moved the puck and dominated the play was the most impressive I've seen from any Moncton team ever Don't even start with the "But it was a wasted season" BS. Life happens unfortunately, can't change it. Can't have expected anyone to predict a season cancelling pandemic to happen and not make those trades Just curious also as to why you would hate these two teams making those big trades? I'm in the mindset that whatever you can do to make your team the best that makes the most sense you do it. Just curious as to the other mindsets behind disliking it You can debate the price but two years of Desnoyers, three of L'Heureux and two high 1st round picks seemed like a lot. Obviously it looks even worse when you consider how things played out but that isn't anyone's fault. I don't like them trading with each other since this is supposedly a big rivalry, something the league desperately needs more of. That's all. I'd hate to see the rivalry lessened because the teams are helping each other in contending seasons. Feels off to me but obviously Ritchie and Cam Russell have a good working relationship and I totally get that none of this stuff really factors into their decision making. I will certainly hate it a bit less if things work more in the Cats favour this time around. The weird thing about the Q is that.... yes, Moncton and Halifax are rivals because of the number of times we play each other and the proximities of the cities, but the most intense rivalries tend to be with teams who share a cycle with you. Like, Cape Breton and Moncton to the more casual fan are usually Halifax's biggest rival, but Baie-Comeau and Rouyn-Noranda tend to be Halifax's biggest rivalries on the ice, and it happens organically just because the teams are usually evenly matched, and to the more hardcore fan, those games are measuring stick games. I have a feeling that Rimouski might feel like that to Moncton, especially next season after the Memorial cup theft lol.
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Post by Score on Jan 7, 2024 20:12:35 GMT -4
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Jan 7, 2024 21:00:02 GMT -4
Kinda surprised, I guess they really wanted to go with 14-8 incase of injuries because when sumpf finally gets his gear back. The 4th line becomes carrier-trenholm-Sampson/glas/cormier now
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Post by WildcatMapleLeafs on Jan 7, 2024 21:18:22 GMT -4
I thought he looked very good in his call up games. Physical and. It scared of the dirty areas
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Post by Score on Jan 8, 2024 10:40:36 GMT -4
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Post by lirette on Jan 8, 2024 10:44:51 GMT -4
I thought he looked very good in his call up games. Physical and. It scared of the dirty areas To bring him up now given the logjam on the 4th line to try and get icetime they must feel hes a piece for the team next year. Glas was rarely scratched in the 1st half but hes gonna have to take his turn if everyones healthly.
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 8, 2024 10:46:49 GMT -4
You can debate the price but two years of Desnoyers, three of L'Heureux and two high 1st round picks seemed like a lot. Obviously it looks even worse when you consider how things played out but that isn't anyone's fault. I don't like them trading with each other since this is supposedly a big rivalry, something the league desperately needs more of. That's all. I'd hate to see the rivalry lessened because the teams are helping each other in contending seasons. Feels off to me but obviously Ritchie and Cam Russell have a good working relationship and I totally get that none of this stuff really factors into their decision making. I will certainly hate it a bit less if things work more in the Cats favour this time around. The weird thing about the Q is that.... yes, Moncton and Halifax are rivals because of the number of times we play each other and the proximities of the cities, but the most intense rivalries tend to be with teams who share a cycle with you. Like, Cape Breton and Moncton to the more casual fan are usually Halifax's biggest rival, but Baie-Comeau and Rouyn-Noranda tend to be Halifax's biggest rivalries on the ice, and it happens organically just because the teams are usually evenly matched, and to the more hardcore fan, those games are measuring stick games. I have a feeling that Rimouski might feel like that to Moncton, especially next season after the Memorial cup theft lol. I really wish you played a team in your conference more than twice because I'm almost certain that Baie-Comeau/Halifax, Baie-Comeau/Moncton, Moncton/Rimouski, etc would be bigger rivalries. At the moment, aside from Halifax, it feels like the Cats have zero rivalries. Bathurst? No one around here has cared about them in the last 15 years. Saint John? Since the 2010 final they've been good at the same time maybe once. Nothing there at all right now. Charlottetown? This was really good the first few years of the Rocket but has faded big time. Never good at the same time. Cape Breton? This was pretty good when Garland was around and in 2020 but they always feel more like the annoying younger sibling trying and failing to keep up more than anything. Moncton and Baie-Comeau play an epic seven game series, loads of players on both sides coming back, they're in the same conference...and we're in January and they haven't even played once yet. If you're in the same conference as someone you should be playing more than twice.
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Post by hockeyfanatic on Jan 8, 2024 13:08:45 GMT -4
When I was a season ticket holder in Ontario ( Ottawa 67's with Kilrea coaching and the Barrie colts ) the teams in a different division but same conference played each other 4 times ( 2 x each rink ) and the the other Conference 2 x like they do now . It helped create more rivalries like Rimouski or Baie Comeau as well as Halifax.
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Post by tim08 on Jan 8, 2024 19:49:50 GMT -4
Mueller was flying for you guys yesterday by far the best player on the ice is he coming back next year?
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