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Post by ronal on Jan 5, 2024 12:17:31 GMT -4
I think the Value is Good for sure i just dont see Moncton going all in until next season. That deal would be far from "going all in" lol. Mateiko will be back next year as one of the top euros in the league and Mann is eligible to return as well. Yea which means they won't half ass it this year and will wait until next to pay less. And giving a 1st 2nd and third and a player for something is an all in move
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 5, 2024 12:19:41 GMT -4
That deal would be far from "going all in" lol. Mateiko will be back next year as one of the top euros in the league and Mann is eligible to return as well. Yea which means they won't half ass it this year and will wait until next to pay less. And giving a 1st 2nd and third and a player for something is an all in move As of right now, Mateiko could be the best import in the league next year (in a Q hosting year) and will be 19. His value isn't going to go down. Mann's would go down.
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Post by ronal on Jan 5, 2024 12:26:45 GMT -4
Yea which means they won't half ass it this year and will wait until next to pay less. And giving a 1st 2nd and third and a player for something is an all in move As of right now, Mateiko could be the best import in the league next year (in a Q hosting year) and will be 19. His value isn't going to go down. Mann's would go down. There's no guarantee mateiko comes back as a 20 he probably will and as a 20 his value goes down for sure even if he's the best his value will go down as a 20 rather than 19 and does Mann classify as a 20 or 19 next year
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 5, 2024 12:34:24 GMT -4
As of right now, Mateiko could be the best import in the league next year (in a Q hosting year) and will be 19. His value isn't going to go down. Mann's would go down. There's no guarantee mateiko comes back as a 20 he probably will and as a 20 his value goes down for sure even if he's the best his value will go down as a 20 rather than 19 and does Mann classify as a 20 or 19 next year Mateiko is only 18 this year. Mann is 19.
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Post by ronal on Jan 5, 2024 12:40:30 GMT -4
There's no guarantee mateiko comes back as a 20 he probably will and as a 20 his value goes down for sure even if he's the best his value will go down as a 20 rather than 19 and does Mann classify as a 20 or 19 next year Mateiko is only 18 this year. Mann is 19. Wow i I thought he was 19. yea Mateiko is for sure fetching a first possibly two with him only being 18 right now
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Post by catzfans on Jan 5, 2024 16:19:34 GMT -4
I don’t believe we have a 1st to trade away anyway. We traded it to Halifax
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Post by Briwhel on Jan 5, 2024 16:21:57 GMT -4
I don’t believe we have a 1st to trade away anyway. We traded it to Halifax Moncton has 2 2026 1sts and 0 before that 2024: 2Dru-3-3Sha-4Vdo-4Vic-6-6Sha-7-7Sha-8-9-10-10She-11-12-13-14 2025: 3-4SJ-4-5-5She-6-8-9-10STJ-10-11-12-13-14 2026: 1-1Hal-2Hal-2-3Hal-3-4-5-5Rim-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14
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Post by WhiteTyAffair on Jan 5, 2024 17:02:24 GMT -4
I don’t believe we have a 1st to trade away anyway. We traded it to Halifax Moncton has 2 2026 1sts and 0 before that 2024: 2Dru-3-3Sha-4Vdo-4Vic-6-6Sha-7-7Sha-8-9-10-10She-11-12-13-14 2025: 3-4SJ-4-5-5She-6-8-9-10STJ-10-11-12-13-14 2026: 1-1Hal-2Hal-2-3Hal-3-4-5-5Rim-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 And those two 2026 1sts plus a few more picks are likely going to Halifax at the draft for two of their current roster players.
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Post by joehockey on Jan 5, 2024 17:21:30 GMT -4
Mann and Mateiko for Zielinski , 1st , 2nd + 3rd ? I wouldn’t be a fan of this trade - Moncton would also have to move Mueller, Auger or both for it to make sense in my mind. I don’t mind adding Mateiko - I think it could be a good idea for next year - but Moncton already has too many guys fighting for top 9 spots this year so you’d have to move someone. Auger / Mueller would be the obvious choices because you’re essentially committing to keeping Mann as a 20 in this case. I’d also argue that you want to open a spot now (outside of this trade scenario) so a guy like Carrier can have a bigger role the rest of the year. I’m also not a big fan of Mann. Also, we have to factor in what is coming as part of the Halifax trade. Is Moncton getting MacKinnon back? I think that reduces the need for Mann.
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Post by joehockey on Jan 5, 2024 17:25:13 GMT -4
Moncton has 2 2026 1sts and 0 before that 2024: 2Dru-3-3Sha-4Vdo-4Vic-6-6Sha-7-7Sha-8-9-10-10She-11-12-13-14 2025: 3-4SJ-4-5-5She-6-8-9-10STJ-10-11-12-13-14 2026: 1-1Hal-2Hal-2-3Hal-3-4-5-5Rim-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 And those two 2026 1sts plus a few more picks are likely going to Halifax at the draft for two of their current roster players. Is that spitballing or a rumour? I get the speculation that Moncton would return some or all of the picks received for one player, but hadn’t heard about potentially sending a second first back for a second player.
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Post by galixon on Jan 5, 2024 18:18:42 GMT -4
Mann and Mateiko for Zielinski , 1st , 2nd + 3rd ? I wouldn’t be a fan of this trade - Moncton would also have to move Mueller, Auger or both for it to make sense in my mind. I don’t mind adding Mateiko - I think it could be a good idea for next year - but Moncton already has too many guys fighting for top 9 spots this year so you’d have to move someone. Auger / Mueller would be the obvious choices because you’re essentially committing to keeping Mann as a 20 in this case. I’d also argue that you want to open a spot now (outside of this trade scenario) so a guy like Carrier can have a bigger role the rest of the year. I’m also not a big fan of Mann. Also, we have to factor in what is coming as part of the Halifax trade. Is Moncton getting MacKinnon back? I think that reduces the need for Mann. Rumblings are that it is Vidicek going to Moncton at the draft
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Post by catzfans on Jan 5, 2024 18:30:53 GMT -4
I wouldn’t be a fan of this trade - Moncton would also have to move Mueller, Auger or both for it to make sense in my mind. I don’t mind adding Mateiko - I think it could be a good idea for next year - but Moncton already has too many guys fighting for top 9 spots this year so you’d have to move someone. Auger / Mueller would be the obvious choices because you’re essentially committing to keeping Mann as a 20 in this case. I’d also argue that you want to open a spot now (outside of this trade scenario) so a guy like Carrier can have a bigger role the rest of the year. I’m also not a big fan of Mann. Also, we have to factor in what is coming as part of the Halifax trade. Is Moncton getting MacKinnon back? I think that reduces the need for Mann. Rumblings are that it is Vidicek going to Moncton at the draft We'd have to be moving forwards out as we have a lot of top 9 forwards at this point
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Post by WHEELsnipePARTY on Jan 5, 2024 18:33:22 GMT -4
Rumblings are that it is Vidicek going to Moncton at the draft We'd have to be moving forwards out as we have a lot of top 9 forwards at this point You’d also be losing auger/muller so if it was indeed true. The probable top 9 would be. Loshing-Desnoyers-Mercier Collard-Vidicek-Lounsbury Smith-Sumpf-Carrier Carrier replaces auger on that line and vidicek replaces muller
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Post by Arnold Slick on Jan 5, 2024 20:16:27 GMT -4
Moncton has 2 2026 1sts and 0 before that 2024: 2Dru-3-3Sha-4Vdo-4Vic-6-6Sha-7-7Sha-8-9-10-10She-11-12-13-14 2025: 3-4SJ-4-5-5She-6-8-9-10STJ-10-11-12-13-14 2026: 1-1Hal-2Hal-2-3Hal-3-4-5-5Rim-6-7-8-9-10-11-12-13-14 And those two 2026 1sts plus a few more picks are likely going to Halifax at the draft for two of their current roster players. Oh good! Making a major trade with Halifax worked out tremendously well last time. Absolutely hate these two teams making big trades with each other, no matter how much sense it makes.
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Post by Captain Obvious on Jan 5, 2024 21:51:23 GMT -4
And those two 2026 1sts plus a few more picks are likely going to Halifax at the draft for two of their current roster players. Oh good! Making a major trade with Halifax worked out tremendously well last time. Absolutely hate these two teams making big trades with each other, no matter how much sense it makes. 100%
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