White/Blue Afternoon Game

[canucklehead]

I seen Francis Charland on the ice in the first period cuz I didn't expect to see him out there anybody know if he played the entire game or just and couple shifts during the first period?

Maybe testing it out?

[canucklehead]

Maybe we should consider getting in on the Picard-Hooper sweepstakes might be able to make it happen for maybe Amyot and a 2nd RD pick?

[major]

I can't remember if it was at the end of the 2nd or the beginning of the 3rd but he went off in pain and didnt return.

[major]

canucklehead said:

Maybe we should consider getting in on the Picard-Hooper sweepstakes might be able to make it happen for maybe Amyot and a 2nd RD pick?

We are not contending this season so i dont think that would be a good trade, if we were contending I would say go for it.

[canucklehead]

True but next year we still have Grant, Sauve, Stich, Despres, and Rioux still a solid 5

[major]

I dont think they will keep Rioux as a 20 next season, its next season when you upgrade for impact 20 year olds.

[bjindaho]

I'd add Dopud to try and sweeten the deal if they want another goalie

[canucklehead]

major said:

I dont think they will keep Rioux as a 20 next season, its next season when you upgrade for impact 20 year olds.

Before camp I would have agreed 100% now I'm not so sure he's really played well in training camp but the idea of trading Dopud to sweeten a pot might be a good idea.

I know people will jump on this and say why bother this season but if you could trade for a guy like Picard-Hooper at a cost of Amyot and a 2nd maybe even include Dopud somehow in a trade why not we'll still have 5 very capable defensemen next year.

[major]

I still dont think its a good trade for a player thats here for one season in a non-contending season. Thats way too much to give up.

[Judas In My Mind]

canucklehead said:

Maybe Leask ole boy would like to comment on Dillman? ;D

Wasn't Dillman but I'll comment on who you meant (Pisano). Big boy and while not in the same calibre of our favored 7 D, if we really are going with a 25 man roster I'd keep the guy around. As for his fighting he hasn't really fought a "name guy" yet. I'd be interested in seeing him go with an experienced fighter or someone with size. He seems to only use the pull the back of the jersey/head trick and uppercut the hell out of his opponent. (nothing wrong with that since it worked so far but I'd like to see what happens when that doesn't work.)

His other skills might get better with spending most of the time in the stands, playing the odd shift or two in some games, and practicing his ass off with 20 something other full roster Sea Dogs...

If we're going with 25 players, keep him. It allows 2 goalies, 8 D and 15 forwards. Anything less than 25...he's cut.

[Judas In My Mind]

I'm more concerned with this Resendes problem. Yes, it's a problem. This guy can play. His stickhandling needs work and he is quite small but boy does he fly and our team needs his speed. He makes smart passes too. He plays with more jump than just about anyone out there and IMO is making it near impossible to cut him. Why? Because of this...

We picked Mayer. Why do you pick Mayer if you are not sure he is better than Fullerton, or at least willing to take the chance that he will be? You don't burn that type of high Euro pick on a guy you aren't committed to having in your starting lineup. If there was any doubts on Mayer being better than Fullerton, you draft a Euro forward since the team is in desperate need of offense. If Mayer is not your starter you just wasted the pick.

I don't give a shit about "oh you can't go with two rookie Q goalies." We can. We have to. As a team that missed the playoffs two straight years, you have to gamble. By picking Mayer the decision to make that gamble is already made. Now it breaks down to this. What would you rather have? Fullerton as a 20 year old backup goaltender, or Resendes as a 20 year old forward whose speed will excite fans and create offensive opportunities and be something teams have to be aware of?

Assuming Resendes keeps doing what he's been doing...I'm picking Resendes, and I was one of the people shaking his head when he saw this tiny little 20 year old player hop onto the ice on Sunday for drills and gave him absolutely no chance of making it. It is early though but like I said. Assuming Resendes keeps this level of play going...

[bjindaho]

you know that we can keep 4 20s and 3 goalies and just don't dress fullerton when he's not starting

[canucklehead]

jrsuperstar said:

I'm more concerned with this Resendes problem. Yes, it's a problem. This guy can play. His stickhandling needs work and he is quite small but boy does he fly and our team needs his speed. He makes smart passes too. He plays with more jump than just about anyone out there and IMO is making it near impossible to cut him. Why? Because of this...

We picked Mayer. Why do you pick Mayer if you are not sure he is better than Fullerton, or at least willing to take the chance that he will be? You don't burn that type of high Euro pick on a guy you aren't committed to having in your starting lineup. If there was any doubts on Mayer being better than Fullerton, you draft a Euro forward since the team is in desperate need of offense. If Mayer is not your starter you just wasted the pick.

I don't give a shit about "oh you can't go with two rookie Q goalies." We can. We have to. As a team that missed the playoffs two straight years, you have to gamble. By picking Mayer the decision to make that gamble is already made. Now it breaks down to this. What would you rather have? Fullerton as a 20 year old backup goaltender, or Resendes as a 20 year old forward whose speed will excite fans and create offensive opportunities and be something teams have to be aware of?

Assuming Resendes keeps doing what he's been doing...I'm picking Resendes, and I was one of the people shaking his head when he saw this tiny little 20 year old player hop onto the ice on Sunday for drills and gave him absolutely no chance of making it. It is early though but like I said. Assuming Resendes keeps this level of play going...

I've been thinking something very similar I would have a real hard time right now cutting Resendes I watch that red helmet the entire time he's on the ice I always expect something to happen.

The stretch pass he made to Pard was tape to tape perfect and it had some serious zip on it. Kudos to Pard for being able to handle it but it was absolutely perfect. His only issue is his size I know size means less and less but if you haven't seen this guy yet trust me he's short and stocky plays with a ton of energy and seems to never get tired.

Personally I hope they have him in the line-up Saturday night I wanna see him play against Moncton and see how that goes!

[Judas In My Mind]

BJ: Thats a waste really. Fullerton deserves to be a starter in his last year of junior hockey. Let him start in Junior A. If you keep him on the protected list you can always call him up if Mayer gets hurt or things get really bad. Then you always have the 3 20 year old forwards in the lineup and don't have to juggle the 3 out of 4 20's.

Canucklehead: You don't trade for Picard-Hooper, especially involving Amyot. Why? Because like Major said, we have no high expectations this year other than hopefully getting into the playoffs. Its the next year and the one after that where we expect something bigger to happen. So why trade a top young D prospect now for a guy that won't be around when we need him most? We're still going to be in desperate need of offense next year you know. Having an Amyot or whoever available for next year, should JB decide to make a trade to get proven offense, is more valueable than doing so this year. You do it this year and you lose an asset for next year when that asset is more important.

Not to mention Rioux returning as a 20 is not a certainty, and that Stich is at risk of being gone by next year. Was Stich a JB pick or a Tipper pick? That could be as important as which Stich plays for us this year? First half Stich, or second half Stich? JB may decide he wants to free up the Euro slot and handpick him another. Either way Stich needs to have a big year this year if he's going to be a part of next year, IMO.

So if you trade Amyot now, and Stich plays like he did in the second half, and Rioux doesn't play well enough to justify keeping as a 20, what is our returning D? Grant, Sauve and Despres...crap. Now we need D. See?

[canucklehead]

bjindaho said:

you know that we can keep 4 20s and 3 goalies and just don't dress fullerton when he's not starting

This is true if the staff decide it's worth it to carry 3 goaltenders which might be an option