Qfan69
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 24, 2010 17:11:58 GMT -4
Really??? you havent been at camp! ashley / andrews / des line has been great! they will be scoring line 1 unless FRK comes to town. Dont think Randell will be on scoring line 3 but more of a checking line against the other teams top players. bety and randell alongside someone will make our checking line. I said I hadnt seen camp... but wow some intersquad scrimmages and 1 game (seen) vs SJ`s partial actual roster? I`m sure they look good, all talented guys, but that hardly means they are ready to be a #1 line in the Q against top defenders on a nightly basis. I'm sorta with you there but if you look at our line up who else is there that can be number one center? I feel that they see this as a top line for the next two years and theres no one really ahead of them now so why not throw them in there now. Even when Frk shows up hes a left winger so Anderws is still our number one guy.
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Post by canbeer on Aug 24, 2010 18:30:14 GMT -4
I said I hadnt seen camp... but wow some intersquad scrimmages and 1 game (seen) vs SJ`s partial actual roster? I`m sure they look good, all talented guys, but that hardly means they are ready to be a #1 line in the Q against top defenders on a nightly basis. I'm sorta with you there but if you look at our line up who else is there that can be number one center? I feel that they see this as a top line for the next two years and theres no one really ahead of them now so why not throw them in there now. Even when Frk shows up hes a left winger so Anderws is still our number one guy. Bety... took more faceoffs, was better in the circle, is one of the team's top leaders, put up better numbers, is a 20 year old and has been playing with Grant in camp. Stick Randell on the right side with them and call it our 1st line. Basically just Bety stepping into Knotek's spot from last year.
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Post by sharrow on Aug 24, 2010 19:39:38 GMT -4
Frk will be on the top line for sure so to leave him off is silly also he will be our biggest point getter also we have the luxury of placing Randell in his role of defensive forward along with Andrews and Lemieux checking the other teams top line.
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 25, 2010 8:01:44 GMT -4
Frk will be on the top line for sure so to leave him off is silly also he will be our biggest point getter also we have the luxury of placing Randell in his role of defensive forward along with Andrews and Lemieux checking the other teams top line. Has anyone seen Frk play yet? Its kinda hard to say he'll lead the team in points when he hasn't even hit the ice with this team. I know that's the plan slash hope for him to do but he hasn't even skated with anyone on this team yet. As for andrews playing as a checking line center that's not going to happen either. He'll be the first or second line guy. Someone said earlier that Bety took more face offs and had better percentage then him, all true but as a 16 year old rookie he took 830ish and was 48%. Not bad for a rookie 16 year old if you ask me.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Aug 25, 2010 8:18:15 GMT -4
Frk will be on the top line for sure so to leave him off is silly also he will be our biggest point getter also we have the luxury of placing Randell in his role of defensive forward along with Andrews and Lemieux checking the other teams top line. Has anyone seen Frk play yet? Its kinda hard to say he'll lead the team in points when he hasn't even hit the ice with this team. I know that's the plan slash hope for him to do but he hasn't even skated with anyone on this team yet. As for andrews playing as a checking line center that's not going to happen either. He'll be the first or second line guy. Someone said earlier that Bety took more face offs and had better percentage then him, all true but as a 16 year old rookie he took 830ish and was 48%. Not bad for a rookie 16 year old if you ask me. I think most people are basing Frk's production/impact around reports from numerous people who have seen him play and the numbers that say/show him better than Voracek/Frolik etc at the same age. Purely assumptions but calculated ones.
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Post by elementz on Aug 25, 2010 8:37:23 GMT -4
Frk will be on the top line for sure so to leave him off is silly also he will be our biggest point getter also we have the luxury of placing Randell in his role of defensive forward along with Andrews and Lemieux checking the other teams top line. Has anyone seen Frk play yet? Its kinda hard to say he'll lead the team in points when he hasn't even hit the ice with this team. I know that's the plan slash hope for him to do but he hasn't even skated with anyone on this team yet. As for andrews playing as a checking line center that's not going to happen either. He'll be the first or second line guy. Someone said earlier that Bety took more face offs and had better percentage then him, all true but as a 16 year old rookie he took 830ish and was 48%. Not bad for a rookie 16 year old if you ask me. I know it's still quite early but I have seen a few sources saying he is a good candidate to go 1st overall in the 2012 draft.
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Qfan69
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 25, 2010 9:54:07 GMT -4
Yeah I know that's what everyone is basing that on. But really who's he going to play with here that would help his point total. Everyone is saying grant? They play the same position. He could play with Anderws and Ashley like I said before but then where do you put Desjardins and or Carl? Maybe drop Grant to a 3rd line with Bety and Lemieux and put Carl and Boudreau together with him.
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Post by maddie on Aug 25, 2010 11:28:04 GMT -4
Hey training camp is still in progress when I last looked and the thread is final roster and lines, so whats your problem Y Draig Goch you better get with the program or the season will start without you involved. GO-MOOSE-GO
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 25, 2010 12:23:37 GMT -4
You know something we all don't, so please let us all in on your little secret. Until then Maddie he's not apart of this team. Every Moose fan and maybe even Qfans would like to see him on the team to see how good he really is.
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Post by Y Ddraig Goch on Aug 25, 2010 12:31:29 GMT -4
Hey training camp is still in progress when I last looked and the thread is final roster and lines, so whats your problem Y Draig Goch you better get with the program or the season will start without you involved. GO-MOOSE-GO You are so full of shit. You need to get with the program rather than just making things up all the time. Frk won't be in training camp and he won't be in the opening line-up. The only people in the know of that are Karlovy Vary and you sure as hell don't have any contacts there. They've made their position very clear. The fact you quote Masher says it all about you.
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Post by Darkside on Aug 25, 2010 14:33:11 GMT -4
I think the problem with predicting lines is the makeup of this team is too top-heavy with young skill that should be playing top 6. Ideally you would want your 20's and experienced 19's being your 'go to' guys but I see ours as our defensive/shutdown forwards. I think a line of Grant - Bety - Randell checking other teams top lines would be best for our success. Call them line 1 or line 3, it doesn't really matter, but we need that solid line to calm things down if the young players are running around a bit and to play against dangerous opposition. I like to think of them as our 3rd line.
Then you have an abundance of guys that are skilled and should be playing top 6, that aren't really suited as 'checkers'. And if they don't have room to play them enough, should be sent back to midget or affiliated.
These 3 pretty much look like a line that's worth sticking with for the near future anyway:
Ashley - Andrews - Desjardins
I would like to see Ciampini play with Boudreau and Gelinas. They are all highly skilled and I think would compliment each other nicely
Ciampini - Boudreau - Gelinas
That leaves Lemieux, MacDonald, Turbide, Warner, Davis, Souligny, to battle for 4th line time. Lemieux and Macdonald are returnees so I think you put them with Turbide who seems to bring the most of the remaining 4. Then you keep 2 of the 3 as the 13th and 14th forwards to rotate from the press box. Right now I like Warner and Souligny over Davis.
MacDonald - Turbide - Lemieux Souligny - Warner
Not as much controversy on D but I think the pairings should be:
Abeltshauser - Amyot Gillard - Clarke Hannay - Lewis Bishop - Desmarais (if they keep 8 D)
In goal:
Corbeil Terenzio
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Post by eastcoastfan on Aug 25, 2010 15:19:08 GMT -4
I think the problem with predicting lines is the makeup of this team is too top-heavy with young skill that should be playing top 6. Ideally you would want your 20's and experienced 19's being your 'go to' guys but I see ours as our defensive/shutdown forwards. I think a line of Grant - Bety - Randell checking other teams top lines would be best for our success. Call them line 1 or line 3, it doesn't really matter, but we need that solid line to calm things down if the young players are running around a bit and to play against dangerous opposition. I like to think of them as our 3rd line. Then you have an abundance of guys that are skilled and should be playing top 6, that aren't really suited as 'checkers'. And if they don't have room to play them enough, should be sent back to midget or affiliated. These 3 pretty much look like a line that's worth sticking with for the near future anyway: Ashley - Andrews - Desjardins I would like to see Ciampini play with Boudreau and Gelinas. They are all highly skilled and I think would compliment each other nicely Ciampini - Boudreau - Gelinas That leaves Lemieux, MacDonald, Turbide, Warner, Davis, Souligny, to battle for 4th line time. Lemieux and Macdonald are returnees so I think you put them with Turbide who seems to bring the most of the remaining 4. Then you keep 2 of the 3 as the 13th and 14th forwards to rotate from the press box. Right now I like Warner and Souligny over Davis. MacDonald - Turbide - Lemieux Souligny - Warner Not as much controversy on D but I think the pairings should be: Abeltshauser - Amyot Gillard - Clarke Hannay - Lewis Bishop - Desmarais (if they keep 8 D) In goal: Corbeil Terenzio Good analysis! I agree that putting Grant, Bety and Randell out against the other team's top line makes the most sense. They will also provide a decent amount of scoring even in a checking role. Of course we're all hoping to see these lines "Frked" up as soon as possible. ;D
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Qfan69
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 25, 2010 17:10:52 GMT -4
I think the problem with predicting lines is the makeup of this team is too top-heavy with young skill that should be playing top 6. Ideally you would want your 20's and experienced 19's being your 'go to' guys but I see ours as our defensive/shutdown forwards. I think a line of Grant - Bety - Randell checking other teams top lines would be best for our success. Call them line 1 or line 3, it doesn't really matter, but we need that solid line to calm things down if the young players are running around a bit and to play against dangerous opposition. I like to think of them as our 3rd line. Then you have an abundance of guys that are skilled and should be playing top 6, that aren't really suited as 'checkers'. And if they don't have room to play them enough, should be sent back to midget or affiliated. These 3 pretty much look like a line that's worth sticking with for the near future anyway: Ashley - Andrews - Desjardins I would like to see Ciampini play with Boudreau and Gelinas. They are all highly skilled and I think would compliment each other nicely Ciampini - Boudreau - Gelinas That leaves Lemieux, MacDonald, Turbide, Warner, Davis, Souligny, to battle for 4th line time. Lemieux and Macdonald are returnees so I think you put them with Turbide who seems to bring the most of the remaining 4. Then you keep 2 of the 3 as the 13th and 14th forwards to rotate from the press box. Right now I like Warner and Souligny over Davis. MacDonald - Turbide - Lemieux Souligny - Warner Not as much controversy on D but I think the pairings should be: Abeltshauser - Amyot Gillard - Clarke Hannay - Lewis Bishop - Desmarais (if they keep 8 D) In goal: Corbeil Terenzio Well said I like it and agree mostly, just to me while looking at what we have and who'S left I think we'd be better off with no 20 year old forwards. That frees up 2 spots for a kid like Ryan to stick with the team. I like what i have seen from him and think he should stick too. Then with the two open spots too Frk can just walk in and not kick some player like MacDonald or Lemieux to the press box.
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Post by voiceofytown on Aug 25, 2010 20:32:53 GMT -4
Desmond will be in Yarmouth on Monday.
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Post by Qfan69 on Aug 27, 2010 7:49:40 GMT -4
The way it looks right now is Andrew Ryan is going to be the last cut. Which I really really wish this kid makes the team. I think even if he only plays maybe say 20 games this year, he's going to see more ice time and off ice training here then he would where ever he ends up going to. Which brings me to what I was going to ask. If he doesn't make the moose where will he end up? Does he go back to his school team or does some Jr A team own his rights so he could play there for a year?
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